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GenieDi
30-01-10, 11:52
Name - "official" name and what they were known as - Eliza White - married names Eliza Smith, Eliza Miles.




Date and place of birth -


Names of parents - Charles White and Harriet - have found a marriage ref on FreeBMD for Charles White in Sept qtr 1860 to a possible Harriet Honour.


Date and place of baptism - if applicable - 28th February 1864 (IGI entry)


Details of each of his or her marriages - if any - Edwin Smith October 7th 1882 Shabbington, Bucks. Have a note of another marriage in 1887 to a William Miles


Occupation(s) - if any


Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on. 1871, Shabbington, Bucks. 1881,1891,1901,1911 all Haddenham, Bucks.


Date, place and cause of death - 1938 Aylesbury Registration District. Age 75.


Date and place of burial / cremation.


Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Memorial inscription - if any


I really don't have much on her at all. Edwin Smith died in 1884. Edwin was from Haddenham, Bucks.
kiterunner
30-01-10, 12:32
Have you got her (first) marriage certificate, Diane?

I was going to say your sig is a bit out of date, but then I saw the weather forecast last night, so maybe not!
GenieDi
30-01-10, 12:46
Yes I do have her first marriage cert.

We had snow last night lol
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 12:47
Do you have an age on the marriage cert so that a year of birth can be calculated or have you got her on any census?
GenieDi
30-01-10, 12:48
Eliza was 19 and living in Shabbington. Father Charles, a labourer.

Witnesses. Looks like Frederick Brown and Mary Ann White.
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 12:50
How about this one on the 1891 census?

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=6598&iid=BKMRG12_1142_1144-0374&fn=Eliza&ln=Miles&st=d&ssrc=&pid=16501226
GenieDi
30-01-10, 12:50
They only married about 6 weeks before my gt.grandmother Ellen was born.
GenieDi
30-01-10, 12:50
Can't see it Marg, no longer have Ancestry.
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 12:53
Transcription of the 1891

Haddenham, Bucks

William Miles aged 24 a carter born in Haddenham
Eliza Miles aged 28 born Shabbington
Fanny Smith aged 6 born Haddenham
Ada Miles aged 3 born Haddenham
Herbert Miles aged 1 born Haddenham

RG12; Piece: 1144; Folio 27; Page 16
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 12:54
I'll email you the image
GenieDi
30-01-10, 12:55
Thank you Marg, that is them she had Ellen and Fanny by Edwin before he died aged 20...
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 12:56
I'll look for her on other census as well
GenieDi
30-01-10, 12:57
So wonder where Ellen was in 1891?
GenieDi
30-01-10, 12:57
Thank you Marg.
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 12:57
Thank you Marg, that is them she had Ellen and Fanny by Edwin before he died aged 20...

Where is Ellen then I wonder? When was Ellen born?
GenieDi
30-01-10, 12:58
Just found Ellen was with her grandfather Mark Smith in 1891. I'm going through all my papers. I did a fair bit on the Smiths, virtually nothing on the White's.
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 12:59
So wonder where Ellen was in 1891?

With grandparents Mark and Ellen Smith. I'll sent you that one as well.

Oh, do you have that one already then?
GenieDi
30-01-10, 13:00
Ellen was born November 1882.
GenieDi
30-01-10, 13:00
No just a transcript of the 1891.
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 13:02
1901

Jacks Lane Haddington

RG13; Piece: 1354; Folio: 26; Page: 14
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 13:03
ok, sending more images
GenieDi
30-01-10, 13:04
Thanks Marg, 1891 already arrived.
GenieDi
30-01-10, 13:05
I'm sure Ellen and Fanny were both in service in London if memory serves in 1901.
GenieDi
30-01-10, 13:07
She has 6 children on the one you sent she was 38 and it looked like the youngest was either 6 days or months!!
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 13:09
She has 6 children on the one you sent she was 38 and it looked like the youngest was either 6 days or months!!

6 months I reckon

Have her in 1881 but struggling with 1871
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 13:12
Found her in 1871 now
GenieDi
30-01-10, 13:15
The Ann Saw she is with in 1881, could be the connection to the Smith's I'm sure Saw is a name I saw on a census as a stepdaughter.
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 13:18
Just sent the 1911 census image to you
GenieDi
30-01-10, 13:20
Just looked at that 1911, 10 children born...
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 13:22
Her death

Eliza Miles aged 75
Aylesbury
Mar qtr 1938
3a 1530
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 13:26
OK, according to the 1871 census her parents were Charles and Harriet.

There is a submitted baptism on the IGI that fits. 28 Feb 1864 at Shabbington
GenieDi
30-01-10, 13:27
Thanks Marg.

Just looked on my 1871 for the Smith's they have an Elizabeth Saw daughter in law aged 12, wonder if a relation of the Ann for the census you found. 1881 I think?
Margaret in Burton
30-01-10, 13:30
Thanks Marg.

Just looked on my 1871 for the Smith's they have an Elizabeth Saw daughter in law aged 12, wonder if a relation of the Ann for the census you found. 1881 I think?

Maybe, they are both in service together in 1881.

Let me know if you want anything else looking up, don't mind. Intend having a lazy day today.

I'll let you get all of this stuff added to your first post. Then we can see what we are missing.
GenieDi
30-01-10, 13:34
Thanks Marg, my furniture moving has gone by the wayside now...lol This is much more interesting.