Mary Ann Hill MFMM

[anne fraser]

This is a lady I know almost nothing about as my greatgrandmother was orphaned young and brought up by an uncle and aunt.

Family bible dates not confirmed:

Birth 17 Jan 1814
marriage to Thomas Baines (c1814-1845) 1835
death 30 Jan 1858 T.B. (not confirmed)
Census 1841 (probable) as Ann Baines St. Margaret's Leicester
census 1851 widow St. Margaret's Leicester
birthplace given as Uppingham Rutland.
burial unknown
place of marriage unknown
baptism unknown

[marquette]

IGI shows this entry

Mary Ann Hill, baptised 8 Jul 1814 at Ebenezer Independent, Uppingham Rutland to Everard and Eleanor Hill.
(extracted batch)

Were her uncle and aunt dissenters too ?

Di

[anne fraser]

Thanks Marguette I am sure that has appeared since I last looked. I don't know about the uncle and aunt they were Thomas's brother and wife but certainly my grantparents were strong chapel folk. I like Eleanor as the mother's name as Mary's eldest daughter was Eleanor. I wish I could find her on the 1841 census as she is not with her parents.

[Mary from Italy]

The Mary A Baines you found in 1851 was living in Conduit Street, Leicester.

Mary Ann Baines, aged 43, of Conduit Street, Leicester, was buried at Welford Road Cemetery, Leicester, on 6th May 1858. This is a bit late to tie in with the death date in the family bible - could you have misread the month?

Also buried in the same plot are Edward Baines of Conduit St., buried on 12/5/1853 aged 15, and Eleanor Baines of Conduit St., buried on 1/1/1857 aged 20.

It looks as though Edward was at boarding school in Rothwell, Northants, in 1851.

I can't find Thomas's burial because the Welford Road records only begin in 1849.

[anne fraser]

Thanks Mary I have found out more tonight than I have in the last fifty years. I did not actually copy the bible myself a relative gave me the details. The death for Eleanor and Edward tie in with what I have already.

[marquette]

According to the IGI, Everard and Eleanor Hill also had the following baptised at Ebenezer Independent - Edward (1813), Eleanor (1817), Emma (1819), Elizabeth (1821) and James and Everard (both bap 1823).

[Mary from Italy]

An Everard Hill was buried in Uppingham on 21/6/1823, aged 42. There's no burial there for his wife Eleanor, so she may have remarried or moved elsewhere. There are quite a few Hill burials in Uppingham, including an Eleanor, infant, buried in 1818, and an Everard, infant, in 1823, who might well be Mary Ann's siblings.

If you want to send me a PM with your e-mail address, I can send you the details of all of them.

[Mary from Italy]

Just seen Marquette's post with the other children.

How sad. James and Everard must have been twins, and were buried on the same day, 4th Sept 1823.

Can't see the others, fortunately.

[marquette]

The 1851 census shows an Edward Hill born in Uppingham Rutland, also with daughters named Eleanor and Emma, and Eliza. Pity they did not have any sons to name Everard !!

[Mary from Italy]

Sounds like one of my families, which gave all their children names beginning with A for generations :)

[anne fraser]

Thanks to you both I had more or less given up on this bit of the family until this challenge. It is a long time since I found a direct ancestor. The name Everard seems to have died out fortunately but there were a lot of Emmas, Edwards and Eleanors. My grandfather's sisters were Marianne, Ellenor and Emma which always seems sad as their namesakes died young. He was Ernest and had a brother Edward.

[Mary from Italy]

I've checked the Leicester and Leicestershire marriage index 1801-37, and there isn't a marriage for Thomas and Mary Ann. However, it doesn't seem to include Rutland, so perhaps they were married there.

There is a possible marriage in Buckminster in 1824 for an Eleanor Hill to William Kirk.

[marquette]

In 1841 in Wisbech Cambridgeshire

Edward Hill, 25, Draper with with MARY, 30, Eleanor, 2, and various employees and apprentices, but also Emma Hill, 20 and Eleanor Hill 15.

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 79; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Wisbeach St Peter; County: Cambridgeshire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 18; Page: 31; Line: 17;

Looks like they up and left Uppingham.

Di

[anne fraser]

I have just seen ancestry have a christening record for Mary Anne Hill parents Everard and Eleanor Easter. I don't pay enough to see the full record unfortunately.

[marquette]

I hope you can make some more progress with the HILL family now, there does not seem to be anything for Everard on ancestry, and nothing further in the IGI. But happy hunting


Edit heres the ancestry baptism details

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Mary Ann Hill
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1814
Christening Place: Uppingham, Uppingham, Rutland, Eng.
Father's Name: Everard Hill
Mother's Name: Eleanar Easter
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Francis Kemp
Maternal Grandmother's Name: Eleanar

Jan/Jun may have been mis read in your Bible entry.




Di

[marquette]

Everard Hill made a annual Sub to the British and Foreign Bible Society in 1813.

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=Fnaw1M8thfIC&pg=PA254&lpg=PA254&dq=everard+hill+uppingham&source=bl&ots=1uDaQMNIFH&sig=7aOigG5bWgWY7-t0NzLEBAaf1DM&hl=en&ei=mm5jS_fvFpHq7AOayNAj&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CBYQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=everard%20hill%20uppingham&f=false

Di

[Mary from Italy]

Ooh, well done, Anne, just checked the BIVRI christenings on Ancestry, and found her. Stupidly it doesn't say which church, but it must be a nonconformist one because it gives the maternal grandfather's name!

3 christenings, all at Uppingham, Rutland:

Edward Hill 8/2/1813
Mary Ann Hill 17/6/1814
Elizabeth Hill 2/10/1821

In all cases the father is Everard Hill, mother Eleanar Easter, maternal grandfather Francis Kemp and maternal grandmother Eleanar.

[anne fraser]

Thanks I have never got a grandfather's name from a baptism before. Would that be Eleanor's mother's father do you think
The IGI gives the baptism as Ebenezer chapel Uppingham.

[Mary from Italy]

Oops, too late :) I don't know why, the page often doesn't refresh properly, so I tend to see posts a bit late.

[Mary from Italy]

Thanks I have never got a grandfather's name from a baptism before. Would that be Eleanor's mother's father do you think

It's the child's maternal grandfather, so it's Eleanor Easter's father.

[Mary from Italy]

IGI, extracted marriage:

FRANCIS KEMP
Male

Marriages:
Spouse: ELEANOR GODFREY
Marriage: 13 NOV 1776 Belton, Rutland, England

[Mary from Italy]

Ah, FreeReg has the Kemp baptisms in Rutland.

It's Eleanor Esther, not Easter.

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=522441

[Mary from Italy]

From the National Archives site:

[no title] DE 2837/9 17 Sept. 1834

These documents are held at Leicestershire, Leicester and Rutland Record Office

Contents:
Letter from E.E. [Eleanor Easter] Slater at Preston, Rutland, to her [step] son, Daniel Slater, at school at Wisbech, Cambs.
Relates family news and advises him to attend to his religious obligations.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=056-de2837&cid=2-2#2-2

[anne fraser]

Thanks Mary for all your hard work. I hope you did not loose to much sleep. You have got me back another thirty years on this line.

[kiterunner]

Easter is an old variant spelling of Esther.

[Mary from Italy]

I didn't know that, Kite - that explains why I found what I thought was the wrong spelling in more than one place.

[Mary from Italy]

Anne, you'll find Eleanor Slater in Rutland on the 1841 and 1851 censuses. Haven't found a marriage for her, but I'll leave you the fun of continuing the research :)

There's also some very interesting Slater family correspondence on the National Archives site.

[anne fraser]

Thanks very much again Mary. I have just found Francis Kemp as joint owner of the rectory in Belton in 1794. I wonder if Eleanor was born at Easter and she was christened on April 26th.http://www.theoldrectorybelton.co.uk/ It looks as though I might be able to do family history research in some style.

[anne fraser]

Re: marriage lookup
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Greetings from Downunder,

From Uppingham Parish Registers on microfiche (DE 1784/12) we have:
No. 240
Daniel Slater of Preston in the County of Rutland and Eleanor Easter Hill widow OTP married by licence on 2 August 1835.
Witnesses Edward Kemp and Mary Ann Hill
Rector J G Dimock

There is a marriage of a Philip Slater to Eleanor Dorman both OTP at Uppingham on ? July 1817 (No.53)
And for interest;
No. 211
William Baines bachelor of St Margaret Leicester and Mary Kemp spinster OTP married by licence on 7 September 1830.
Witnesses Edward Kemp and Mary Ann Hill
Rector J G Dimock

It looks as though you were on the right track Mary. I asked for a lookup on rootschat and got the above reply.

They also found Mary's marriage to Thomas Baines 13 Jun 1835 Preston Rutland.

[Mary from Italy]

Ooh, excellent.

That Slater family correspondence on the TNA site looks very interesting to give some background information about the period.

The Rectory looks very nice - not a bad place to stay while you're researching your tree :)

[anne fraser]

Thanks unfortunately it says victorian so too late to be the actual house where they lived. I have had a look at Kemp baptisms in Belton and if the family stayed put I think I can get back to 1709.

Update my rootschat contact has just given me a baptism for Everard Hill 15 Jul 1782 in Uppingham parents James and Mary so I am back another generation on that line too. I like this new challenge.

[Louise Bouchard]

Mary Ann Baines died at Belton between July & Sep 1850. Record could be ordered through Free BMD.
Thomas Baines married second Hannah Werrimer in early 1851 and appears on the 1851 Belton, 1861 Belton, and 1871 Liddington census records with his second wife and Sarah A., the child of Thomas Baines & Mary Ann Hill.