Susannah Lewis (MFMM)

[Sue from Southend]

OH's rellie! And I've not done much on her at all. All dates from census, Free BMD etc - no certificates yet:o

Name - Susannah Lewis
Date and place of birth - 1834 either Payhembury, Devon or Hoddington, Devon!
Names of parents - not known
Date and place of baptism - not known
Details of each of his or her marriages - William Grayland, 1863, Romford, Essex
Occupation(s) - none
Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) -
1841 -
1851 -
1861 -
1871 - Augustine Street, Poplar, East London/Esssex
1881 - Sidney Street, Poplar, East London/ Essex

Date, place and cause of death - 1899, Romford, Essex
Date and place of burial / cremation. - Not Known
Details of will / administration of their estate - None
Memorial inscription - None

A couple of their children ended up in Romford where their father was born and where Susannah and William married so I suspect they may have died in that area....

[Margaret in Burton]

Marriage cert would give her fathers name.

Susannah Lewis and William Grayland
1863 Romford
Dec qtr 4a 150

Only one that shows up in 1851 searching for Sus" Lewis born 1834 +/- 2 years in Devon was born in Dartmouth parents John and Elizabeth.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8860&iid=DEVHO107_1873_1874-0196&fn=Susannah&ln=Lewis&st=d&ssrc=&pid=6610706

[Margaret in Burton]

baptism from the IGI batch C050791

Susan Hannah Lewis parents John and Elizabeth
12 MAR 1834 Saint Savior, Dartmouth, Devon, England

[Margaret in Burton]

Payhembury is near Honington, over 50 miles away from Dartmouth.

Hoddington, I can't find on Google maps.

[Sue from Southend]

I know I'll have to bite the bullet and start sending for certs for OH's family but his family don't show much interest and I grudge spending the money when there's still stuff to get for my side!!

I had spotted the 1851 entry, Margaret but as you say - I need the cert to be sure.....

Edit - Hoddington was the transcribed entry on 1881 census ( i think!) it could be Honington... off to check now! Just checked - definitely Hoddington!

[Sue from Southend]

I've just found a probable death for Susannah in 1899. Have amended the original posting.

[kiterunner]

Do you have the birth certs for any of her children to confirm that Lewis was her maiden name, or could it be she was married before and Lewis was her first husband's name? She would have been quite old for a first marriage when she married William.

[ElizabethHerts]

I'm cooking supper but will look later, Sue!

My schoolfriend's father was Vicar of Payhembury in the 1960s. :) I used to play there a lot - we lived in Honiton just a few miles away!

Do you mean "Hoddington"? Yes , you do!

The locals say "Huniton" not "Honiton".
I've just read your post re. the name.

[Sue from Southend]

Nope! No certs! You're all making me feel very guilty for not approaching this side of the tree in the correct way! I knew there was a reason for not posting about them before, lol! My side is fully documented, I promise!
Yes, she could have married before - there is in 1881 two sons named John which is odd but they are only 2 yrs apart and both born after the marriage.

[Sue from Southend]

I'm cooking supper but will look later, Sue!

My schoolfriend's father was Vicar of Payhembury in the 1960s. :) I used to play there a lot - we lived in Honiton just a few miles away!

Do you mean "Hoddington"? Yes , you do!

The locals say "Huniton" not "Honiton".
I've just read your post re. the name.

Is Hoddington possible then, Elizabeth? There's no mention in Genuki and when I googled it the only place that came up was nr Basingstoke....

[ElizabethHerts]

Is Hoddington possible then, Elizabeth? There's no mention in Genuki and when I googled it the only place that came up was nr Basingstoke....

I reckon they mean Honiton but wrote it incorrectly. Payhembury is a tiny village - just a few houses really and not far from Honiton. Gosh, this takes me back in time. I remember learning to ice-skate on the pond there!

If you look on Google maps on the sattelite view you can see just how small it is! The church is quite large for such a small village. It's on the north side of the village green - the triangle you can see.

http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Payhembury/

[ElizabethHerts]

Sue, you could try the following contact: (from Genuki)

http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Payhembury/#ChurchRecords
Scroll down to Genealogy and click on the links:

Genealogy
The Online Parish Clerk scheme's representative for this parish is Margaret Lewis, who invites queries and lookup requests. (Resources: extensive database, plus 1901 census.)

It seems that Margaret Lewis will do look-ups. There can't be many Susannahs born in Payhembury in c. 1833!

[Sue from Southend]

Thanks for that Elizabeth - interesting that the contact is a Lewis!

[ElizabethHerts]

I'm doing an 1841 address search for Payhembury on FMP to see if she is still there .

It's really odd for me as I'm finding so many familiar surnames - as my parents were vets they knew the farming community so well and even in the 1950s some of them hadn't even been as far as Exeter. It's sort of pulling at my heartstrings. :o I was the youngest and my mum used to take me with her before I started school and in the holidays.

[Sue from Southend]

A real trip down memory lane(s) then! :)

Thanks for looking.:)

I'm just about to order some certificates - you've all shamed me into it....:d

[ElizabethHerts]

There are only 2 Susannas of the right age range in Payhembury in 1841:

Susanna Taylor
Susanna Bridle

I have found two marriages for Susanna Taylor to a Lewis in Shoreditch.
No marriages for Susanna Bridle to a Taylor.

I think the certificate route is the way to go - which you are already doing, Sue.

(I kept finding Dommets in Payhembury - our butcher in Honiton in the early 1950s was a Mr Dommet and our dog Vicky used to visit him every morning and he used to give her scraps!) *Goodness, I feel old!*

[kiterunner]

there is in 1881 two sons named John which is odd but they are only 2 yrs apart and both born after the marriage.

The older one was registered as William John and the younger one as John Henry.

[kiterunner]

I have found two marriages for Susanna Taylor to a Lewis in Shoreditch.


The 1846 ones didn't marry each other - they're in the LMA records. Can't see the 1853 ones, though, so that's a possibility.

[ElizabethHerts]

Did you order the certificates, Sue, and if so have they arrived?

[Sue from Southend]

Yes to both questions Elizabeth! I didn't post on here tho' as we'd gone into the next week and I wasn't sure if it'd confuse things!
Both Susannah and William had been married before.
Susannah's maiden name was indeed Taylor (well done you!) Father, James Taylor a bricklayer.
I've found her in 1841 - http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=1&gsfn=sus*&gsln=taylor&=&f1=Devon&f2=payhembury&f3=&f18=Female&rg_81004011__date=1830&rs_81004011__date=0&_82004011=england&_82004013=devon&f7=&f20=&f8=&f9=&gskw=&prox=1&db=uki1841&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=0&h=1171593&recoff=1+2

and this is probably her in 1851 with a married sister - http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=1&gsfn=sus*&gsln=taylor&sx=&f1=&f2=&f4=&f18=Female&f12__n=&rg_81004011__date=1830&rs_81004011__date=2&f27=england&f14=devon&f15=&_8000C002=&_80008002=&_80018002=&f7=&f8=&f9=&gskw=&prox=1&db=uki1851&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=0&h=2885479&recoff=1+13+14

and widowed in 1861 with a son James - http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=1&gsfn=sus*&gsln=lewis&f1=Middlesex&f18=Female&rg_81004011__date=1830&rs_81004011__date=2&f27=england&f14=devon&prox=1&db=uki1861&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=0&h=5518116&recoff=1+2

So Susannah is almost sorted apart from her mother's maiden name.....:)

Thanks for your help

[ElizabethHerts]

Ooh, great! So pleased that you sorted that little puzzle. :)