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ElizabethHerts
05-11-21, 17:39
The will for Abel Buckley has arrived.

His daughter was Eliza, born 1812 in the Dukinfield area.
She married twice, firstly to Henry Crompton and secondly to John Rugg Lewis, a solicitor.

Daily News (London) 08 May 1847

LEWIS - CROMPTON
May 5, at the Tabernacle, Wotton-under-Edge, by the Revd. R. Knill, Mr J.R. Lewis, soiicitor, to Eliza, the relict of the late H. Crompton Esq., of Moss Lodge, Ashton under Line.

When did Henry marry Eliza?
Did they have children?

Henry died in 1845:

Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser 22 March 1845
On the 9th inst., aged 33 years, at his residence, Moss Cottage, Ashton-under-Lyne, Henry Crompton, Esq.
I'm sure I saw something about the Channel Islands, but I can't find it now.

kiterunner
05-11-21, 18:02
John Buckley Crompton birth registered Oct-Dec 1839 Ashton and Oldham, MMN Buckley.

Sussex Maid
05-11-21, 18:09
On FMP newspaper database there is the following from the Preston Chronicle dated 21 July 1838 - "On the 4th ult., at the British Amshassador's Chapel, ?Naples, Mr. Crompton, son of Henry Crompton, Esq. late of Paris, to Miss Buckley, of Mloss Lodge, near Aslhtot-uinder.Lyne."
Sorry I don't have a subscription to correct the text
Family Search has indexed it as "Name: Hoy Crompton; Sex Male; Spouse's Name Eliza Buckley; Spouse's Sex: Female
Marriage Date 13 Jun 1838
Marriage Place Napoli, Napoli, Italia
Marriage Place (Original) British Chaplaincy, Napoli, Napoli, Italy
"Italia Matrimoni, 1809-1900", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XK7N-SWR : 7 February 2020), Eliza Buckley in entry for Hoy Crompton, 1838.

kiterunner
05-11-21, 18:09
This is Henry and Eliza in 1841 at Moss Cottage, but no children with them:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8978/images/LANHO107_531_532-0180?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=BPu14455&_phstart=successSource&pId=5296864

About halfway down on the right-hand page. Both age 25, Henry "Ind" born out of Lancashire, Eliza born in Lancashire.

ElizabethHerts
05-11-21, 18:15
On FMP newspaper database there is the following from the Preston Chronicle dated 21 July 1838 - "On the 4th ult., at the British Amshassador's Chapel, ?Naples, Mr. Crompton, son of Henry Crompton, Esq. late of Paris, to Miss Buckley, of Mloss Lodge, near Aslhtot-uinder.Lyne."
Sorry I don't have a subscription to correct the text
Family Search has indexed it as "Name: Hoy Crompton; Sex Male; Spouse's Name Eliza Buckley; Spouse's Sex: Female
Marriage Date 13 Jun 1838
Marriage Place Napoli, Napoli, Italia
Marriage Place (Original) British Chaplaincy, Napoli, Napoli, Italy
"Italia Matrimoni, 1809-1900", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XK7N-SWR : 7 February 2020), Eliza Buckley in entry for Hoy Crompton, 1838.


Wow, thanks! I have been trawling FMP newspapers but didn't find this!

Eliza's father Abel Buckley is OH's 4x-great-uncle.

ElizabethHerts
05-11-21, 18:16
This is Henry and Eliza in 1841 at Moss Cottage, but no children with them:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8978/images/LANHO107_531_532-0180?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=BPu14455&_phstart=successSource&pId=5296864

About halfway down on the right-hand page. Both age 25, Henry "Ind" born out of Lancashire, Eliza born in Lancashire.

Thanks, Kate.

Eliza was an only child (as far as I'm aware). Her mother Ann died young.

ElizabethHerts
05-11-21, 18:17
John Buckley Crompton birth registered Oct-Dec 1839 Ashton and Oldham, MMN Buckley.

Thanks, I'll search the GRO index further.

kiterunner
05-11-21, 18:17
Here is John Buckley Crompton's baptism record:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/3758/images/41501_605905_0544-00041?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=BPu14456&_phstart=successSource&pId=226551

Baptised 9 Jan 1840 at Ashton Under Lyne, the son of Henry and Eliza Crompton of Moss Lodge, father's occupation gentleman.

Then strangely enough, there is an entry for him in the National Probate Calendar for 1862 saying he died 16 Jul 1840 at St Helier's, Jersey:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1904/images/31874_221779-00486?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=BPu14456&_phstart=successSource&pId=386268

kiterunner
05-11-21, 18:20
Also you will want to download this PDF and search for Abel Buckley:

https://media.acny.uk/media/venues/page/attachment/2021/05/MONUMENTAL_INSCRIPTIONS_AND_THE_REGISTER_OF_GRAVES .pdf

ElizabethHerts
05-11-21, 18:26
I KNEW I had seen a Jersey connection:

https://media.acny.uk/media/venues/page/attachment/2021/05/MONUMENTAL_INSCRIPTIONS_AND_THE_REGISTER_OF_GRAVES .pdf

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/207812231/ann-buckley

Grave 6 & 7
Range L
1820 Ground
Stone now
Removed
Sacred to the Memory of
John Buckley Crompton who died at St Helier's, Jersey 16th July 1840 age 9 months
Sacred to the Memory of
Abel Buckley of Wood in Staley who died 25th May 1815 aged 40 years
Also of Ann his wife who died 25th February 1811 in the 20th year of her age
Sacred to the Memory of
Henry Crompton Buckley of _ _ _ _ Lodge who died _ _ March 1815 aged _ _ _ _
Register of Graves: Abel Buckley’s Vault
The Burial Book says that Abel was buried on 1 December 1815
There was no Ann Buckley buried in 1811 – No record of the burial of Henry Crompton Buckley found


Eliza's mother was only 19 when she died. How sad.

ElizabethHerts
05-11-21, 18:30
Also you will want to download this PDF and search for Abel Buckley:

https://media.acny.uk/media/venues/page/attachment/2021/05/MONUMENTAL_INSCRIPTIONS_AND_THE_REGISTER_OF_GRAVES .pdf

I already have this saved on my computer as many of OH's family feature!

I should have searched it.

ElizabethHerts
05-11-21, 18:45
Moss Lodge was a residence of the Buckley family.

garstonite
12-11-21, 07:24
re Jersey
How could Ann of died 25th february 1811 if Eliza was born 1812 ? or am I completely mis reading this ?
although born the Duknfield area - their abode was ASHTON - is this now known as Ashton in Makerfield ?

Baptism: 15 Oct 1812 Providence Independent, Dukinfield, Lancashire, England
Eliza Buckley - [Child] of Abel Buckley & Ann
Born: 23 Aug 1812
Abode: Ashton, Lancaster
Baptised by: T. Bennett
............
so - am I reading that Ann died 1811 correctly ?

ElizabethHerts
12-11-21, 07:38
re Jersey
How could Ann of died 25th february 1811 if Eliza was born 1812 ? or am I completely mis reading this ?
although born the Duknfield area - their abode was ASHTON - is this now known as Ashton in Makerfield ?

Baptism: 15 Oct 1812 Providence Independent, Dukinfield, Lancashire, England
Eliza Buckley - [Child] of Abel Buckley & Ann
Born: 23 Aug 1812
Abode: Ashton, Lancaster
Baptised by: T. Bennett
............
so - am I reading that Ann died 1811 correctly ?

Well spotted, Allan! The dates from the gravestone are confused.

I suspect that the gravestone was incorrectly transcribed.

A marriage licence was granted on 22/11/1811.
The marriage of Abel Buckley and Ann Wright took place on 28/11/1811.

Eliza Buckley was born 23/8/1812 and baptised 15/10/1812.

Ann must have died on or after 23rd August 1812.
I suspect she died 25th February 1813 and not 1811!

The memorial stone was probably erected some time after Abel's death and the information would have come from a family member, therefore it is quite possible some of the facts are wrong.

garstonite
12-11-21, 07:42
and - Ashton - is Ashton under Lyne ( says Line on post 1 ) so that's sorted - do you have info on Ann Wright ? was she from Lancashire ?

ElizabethHerts
12-11-21, 08:05
The locals spelt it both Line and Lyne in those days.

I know nothing about Ann's parents, but I haven't really looked.

Abel's sister Hannah is OH's 4x-great-grandmother.

garstonite
12-11-21, 08:08
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
put in
abel buckley
all events
search
= 166 results back to 1594- I had no idea it was such a common name -

ElizabethHerts
12-11-21, 08:44
Yes, very common. This Abel Buckley's grandfather was Abel Hyde from Mottram-in-Longdendale.