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ElizabethHerts
15-10-21, 09:26
James Buckley, son of John Buckley and Mary (Hyde), was baptised in 1770 at Mottram-in-Longendale.

It is suggested that he went to New York.

I have found some Buckley burials:
https://peoplelegacy.com/cemetery/mccoun_cemetery-3n6=01/

James 1851
James 1843
Jane Hyde 1824 - 1852
Jemima 1851
Mary Hyde 1823 - 1902

I have been unable to discover anything further about them.

Any help would be appreciated.

Merry
15-10-21, 09:59
Do you think this could be some of them? Jemima and Jane (if her census age is 25)

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8054/images/4203135_00113?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=6f037ff56898764dd1336d6350df1b88&pId=9217628

ElizabethHerts
15-10-21, 10:01
Thanks, Merry.

Unfortunately I only have UK Ancestry.

Merry
15-10-21, 10:02
Oh, and Mary!

Merry
15-10-21, 10:02
Oh, hang on then.....

ElizabethHerts
15-10-21, 10:05
Jemima's burial is on Find a Grave.

James Buckley's burial is there too. It looks like the right on with a year of birth of 1770.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/52530446/james-buckley

Merry
15-10-21, 10:07
1850 US census

Oyster Bay, Queens, New York, USA

Household Members Age
Jemima Buckley........ 63 b NY
Mary Buckley............ 26 b NY
Jane Buckley............. 25 b Nothing recorded, but prob NY
Elizabeth Loins.......... 40 b ditto

ElizabethHerts
15-10-21, 10:11
1850 US census

Oyster Bay, Queens, New York, USA

Household Members Age
Jemima Buckley........ 63 b NY
Mary Buckley............ 26 b NY
Jane Buckley............. 25 b Nothing recorded, but prob NY
Elizabeth Loins.......... 40 b ditto

Thanks, Merry.

It looks as though Jemima was the wife of James Buckley.

ElizabethHerts
15-10-21, 10:20
I'm please I found out where James Buckley went. He's OH's 4x-great-uncle, brother of his 4x-great-grandmother Hannah, who married John Newton.

Merry
15-10-21, 10:29
Jemima's burial is on Find a Grave.

James Buckley's burial is there too. It looks like the right on with a year of birth of 1770.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/52530446/james-buckley

The date of birth on the burial record is his baptism date (18 Sep 1770), so very promising!

ElizabethHerts
15-10-21, 10:38
The date of birth on the burial record is his baptism date (18 Sep 1770), so very promising!

I'm never sure if that is on the gravestone or some researcher has added it!


This is another of the siblings, for example:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193696233/nathaniel-buckley

Merry
15-10-21, 10:40
Oh, I didn't realise that was a thing!! :eek::eek::eek: I might have to re-visit a lot of my relatives on my tree!!

ElizabethHerts
15-10-21, 10:43
Merry, if you knew the person you were researching was buried in a certain graveyard, but there was no record on Find a Grave, I don't think there is anything stopping you adding information without there being photo.

Merry
15-10-21, 10:53
I know I've added burials because there was a dob on the record and I thought it was a transcription from the headstone not just something added by a researcher. I have no idea who I've done this for now though!

Janet
16-10-21, 04:40
Elizabeth, there is a James Buckley listed by rootsweb in Oyster Bay on the 1840 U.S. census. The data is supposed to have been taken from Ancestry, but I haven't yet succeeded in making the Ancestry search turn him up.
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~nynassau/1840obc.html

Googling for more info, I came across a description of McCoun Cemetery. It says among other things that it contains "the McCoun family and others, burials from mid 1700s. Chancellor William T. McCoun, first New York State Republican Party Chairman buried here."
https://paperzz.com/doc/9402911/historic-cemeteries-of-oyster-bay

I'm not sure if you will have recognized Oyster Bay as the residence and summer White House of Theodore Roosevelt. It's full of history, and quite upscale.

EDIT:
Oh look, it seems William T. McCoun himself is living next door to the Buckleys on that 1850 census.

Janet
16-10-21, 05:07
Ah, here's the James Buckley in Oyster Bay on the 1840 census. Ancestry is spelling it as one word, Oysterbay; that's why I hadn't found him yet. Whether he is yours or not I don't know. Also, I see that Oyster Bay in those days was part of Queens, not Nassau County.
1840 United States Federal Census for James Buckley - Oyster Bay, Queens, New York, USA (https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8057/images/4409546_00751?usePUB=true&_phsrc=rAa3401&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=3289446)

1840 (City, County, State): Oysterbay, Queens, New York
Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 2
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 40 thru 49: 1
Free White Persons - Under 20: 2
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 5
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 5

Jill
16-10-21, 05:28
Merry, if you knew the person you were researching was buried in a certain graveyard, but there was no record on Find a Grave, I don't think there is anything stopping you adding information without there being photo.

You are correct, someone who lives in Australia has added dozens of my husband's Bottings using bapt dates for births and just a death year with GRO district for the burial location.

ElizabethHerts
16-10-21, 07:58
Janet, thank you very much. It looks like them.
There was also an Abel Buckley of New York as demonstrated by the following:

"Manchester Mercury 24 December 1811
On the 28th ult at Mottram Longdendale, Mr Abel Buckley, merchant, of New York, to Miss Wright, of Scout Mill, near Aston under line."


The Buckleys were an affluent family and their history is well-documented, although not 100 % accurately, here:

https://archive.org/stream/genealogicalmemo00fish/genealogicalmemo00fish_djvu.txt

John Newton married Hannah Buckley in 1779 and the Buckley name was given to several generations of Newton descendants.

I have just received two wills of siblings of Hannah - that of Nathaniel Buckley and that of Margaret Wareing.

John Buckley, Hannah's father, mentions her three children in his will as does his unmarried daughter Sarah when she died.