Newton muddle!

[ElizabethHerts]

OH's 3x-great-uncle was Thomas Newton, born 1771/2 at Braceby, Lincolnshire.
He married Elizabeth Hutchinson in 1793 and their children were baptised at Swaton, near Great Hale.

The children are a muddle.

In 1851 William Newton, baptised in 1803, appears to be on the 1851 Census with his "wife" Charlotte (Bower).
Charles Newton, son, is 16. He was baptised at Boston on 25th August 1835 - Charlotte was unmarried. William's age is out by a few years.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8860/images/LINHO107_2099_2099-0363?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&pId=9872930


No marriage between William and Charlotte can be found. However, there is this marriage:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FLINCS%2FSKIRBECK_ST_NICHOLAS_PAR _1_12%2F0173&parentid=GBPRS%2FLINCS%2FMAR%2F00369279%2F2

Edward Newton, father Thomas a farmer, marries Charlotte Bower in Skirbeck 2nd December 1841.

This is all I have found of the siblings so far.

Others were: Ann, Thomas, Joseph, Elizabeth and John.

Any help with filling in the gaps would be appreciated.

[ElizabethHerts]

I do have a clue for Thomas, son of Thomas.

The will of Joseph Newton, brother to Thomas senior, in 1841:

"And as to all the Rest residue and remainder of my monies estate and effects whatsoever and wheresoever that I shall be possessed of at the time of my decease I give and bequeath the same and every part thereof unto my said Executors upon trust to lay out and invest the same when converted into money in the public stocks or funds of Great Britain and to stand possessed thereof upon the trusts an for the ends intents and purposes after mentioned that is to say upon trust to pay and apply yearly the sum of twenty pounds in and towards the mainteanance and education of William Newton son of Thomas Newton late of Billingborough Lincolnshire deceased and now about five ^eight ^ years of age and under my care until the said William Newton shall have attained his full age of fourteen years "

William Newton was baptised at Billingborough in 1835, mother Elizabeth.

[Phoenix]

The occupations of Edward per marriage and William per census are the same, and it is patently the same Charlotte as her father is with her in 1851.

[kiterunner]

When were Ann, Thomas, Joseph, Elizabeth and John born?

[ElizabethHerts]

When were Ann, Thomas, Joseph, Elizabeth and John born?

Baptisms at Swaton:

Ann 1796
Joseph 1800
Thomas 1801
Elizabeth 1804
John 1808

There were a couple more who died in infancy.

[ElizabethHerts]

Also, where was Joseph living when he wrote his will and when was his will proved?

He had moved to Islington. It is a PCC will.
He never married and left bequests to his brothers' children and also OH's 3x-great-grandmother Isabella Newton, widow of Joseph's brother John.

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/5111/images/40611_309646-00597?pId=2345

[kiterunner]

These could belong to the family (halfway down the second page):

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8978/images/LINHO107_615_618-0255?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=BPu14188&_phstart=successSource&pId=6618296

[ElizabethHerts]

These could belong to the family (halfway down the second page):

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8978/images/LINHO107_615_618-0255?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=BPu14188&_phstart=successSource&pId=6618296

That looks promising, Kate. I have seen a Claypole / Newton marriage in an online tree.

[ElizabethHerts]

https://www.ancestry.com.au/genealogy/records/thomas-newton-24-k2t36l

[ElizabethHerts]

A very cryptic entry on Lincs to the Past:

'Newton a Lunatic'

Reference Name KQS/F/Clerks' Papers/7(1830)/4
Correspondence about the liability of the parish of Swaton for his maintenance. Includes letters from Charles Chaplin and Ben. Smith (agent to the owner of the parish).

Extent: 9 items

Date: Mar-Apr 1830

Repository: Lincolnshire Archives [057]

[ElizabethHerts]

Time to verify the facts:

Thomas Newton definitely married Elizabeth Hutchinson:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FLINCS%2FGREAT_HALE_PAR_1_5%2F034 6&parentid=GBPRS%2FLINCS%2FMAR%2F00180169%2F1

It says he was from Braceby (a tiny village) and Thomas son of Thomas and Ann Newton was baptised there in 1772.
He married by Licence at Great Hale in 1793.

[ElizabethHerts]

Children of Thomas and Elizabeth Newton baptised at Swaton (near Great Hale):

Ann bapt. 13 March 1779 buried 1 Oct 1799 (Ann was the name of Thomas's mother)
Thomas bapt. 5 November 1797 buried 22 January 1798
William bapt. 4 June 1799 buried 19 June 1799
Joseph bapt. 19 June 1800 (mentions mother's maiden name)
Thomas bapt. 24 June 1801 buried 24 November 1802
William bapt. 3 November 1803
Elizabeth bapt. 11 November 1804
Edward bapt. 22 Mar 1807
John bapt. 4 May 1808

Burials in 1810:
Elizabeth Newton 22 August
William Newton 6 September
no ages given for either and no details

So the survivors were Joseph, William (perhaps buried in 1810?), Elizabeth (or perhaps buried in 1810 if it wasn't her mother), Edward and John.

[ElizabethHerts]

If both children called Thomas died, who on earth is "Thomas Newton late of Billingborough" named in the 1841 will of Joseph Newton of Islington?

[kiterunner]

So it looks likely that William on the (1851) census, married to Charlotte, was the one baptised Edward?

[kiterunner]

The Thomas Newton / Elizabeth Claypole marriage comes up on FMP as 1826 at Dowsby, Lincolnshire. If only my old computer still worked, I could look at it on Lincs to the Past. I see they were hoping to update the site by "summer 2021" to replace Flash, but nothing seems to have happened. Anyway, I'm sure you will be able to view the marriage on FMP and see if there are any clues as to who that Thomas Newton was.

[kiterunner]

Ah, I then looked it up on FreeREG. Thomas is a bachelor of Billingboro, marriage by licence, witnesses James Lavidge and Mary Caswell. Marriage date 23 May 1826. So there might be a marriage licence allegation etc around somewhere...

[kiterunner]

Yes, it is listed in the Lincolnshire Marriage Bonds and Allegations on FMP, so you should be able to view that and see what it says about Thomas.

[Phoenix]

Do you think the John Newton buried May 1810 could have been the John bp in 1808? Infant can mean older than new-born.

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks, Kate.

I was trying to see whether there were any children for William Newton, baptised at Braceby in 1774.

I had a tentative marriage for him to Ann Green in 1801 at *****field.

He died in 1812 and was buried in his home parish of Braceby on 12th December 1812.

"On Wednesday se'nnight, of a dropsy, Mr. W. Newton, farmer and grazier, of Pinchbeck, near Spalding.
His remains were taken to his native place, Braceby, for internment on Saturday."


The marriage was by licence and William's parish isn't given.

[ElizabethHerts]

Do you think the John Newton buried May 1810 could have been the John bp in 1808? Infant can mean older than new-born.

Probably, did I miss one? :o

[ElizabethHerts]

Yes, it is listed in the Lincolnshire Marriage Bonds and Allegations on FMP, so you should be able to view that and see what it says about Thomas.

Thomas is 25 from elsewhere.
Elizabeth is 27 of the parish.

No image and no other details.

[Phoenix]

Joseph made his will 27 March, proved 4 June 1841, so the wretch died just before the 1841 census.

The only Joseph dying in Islington per the GRO site is aged 62, confirmed by the burial: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1559/images/31280_197213-00564?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=4e7653d1e6cb323533fcd0b9f9950b77&usePUB=true&_phsrc=9vh520071&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.208783954.1561982693.1633247233-1518776162.1531920438&pId=8620891


where he is of Devonshire Street.

[ElizabethHerts]

Yes, he was most inconsiderate dying before the census.

I know he is OH's 3x-great-uncle because of his legacies.
He left the widow of his brother John a bequest and made all the surviving children residuary legatees.

Joseph Newton was baptised 17th April 1778 at St Margaret, Braceby, a tiny Lincolnshire village which we have visited a few times. His parents' gravestone is still prominent in the churchyard.
The church has no electricity and is rarely used now.

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks, Kate.

I was trying to see whether there were any children for William Newton, baptised at Braceby in 1774.

I had a tentative marriage for him to Ann Green in 1801 at *****field.

He died in 1812 and was buried in his home parish of Braceby on 12th December 1812.

"On Wednesday se'nnight, of a dropsy, Mr. W. Newton, farmer and grazier, of Pinchbeck, near Spalding.
His remains were taken to his native place, Braceby, for internment on Saturday."

The marriage was by licence and William's parish isn't given.


Ooh, it didn't like the place name which begins with the name you give a female dog! :D

[Phoenix]

Right, so the Thomas of Billingborough could be any nephew or even a more distant kinsman? (I was muddling that Joseph with his nephew, son of Thomas)

[ElizabethHerts]

There are a lot of Thomases and Josephs in this family!

A Joseph Newton was the father of Thomas Newton who fathered all the boys at Braceby.

[ElizabethHerts]

I might have to go back a generation to the siblings of Thomas Newton of Braceby (parents Joseph and Rebecca of Claypole and Heydour).

[Phoenix]

Is this young William?

"On the llth inst. an inquest was held at Dowsby, on the body William Newton, aged 14. Deceased was in the employment of his uncle, Mr. John Claypole, miller. Wednesday morning the 10th he was seen
19 April 1850 - Lincolnshire Chronicle - Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England "

[ElizabethHerts]

Is this young William?

"On the llth inst. an inquest was held at Dowsby, on the body William Newton, aged 14. Deceased was in the employment of his uncle, Mr. John Claypole, miller. Wednesday morning the 10th he was seen
19 April 1850 - Lincolnshire Chronicle - Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England "

Yes, it could be.

[Phoenix]

And William and Edward ARE one and the same:

"on the Ilth, Edw. Newton, cordwainer, of Weststreet, aged 51 ;—
16 December 1859 - Stamford Mercury - Stamford, Lincolnshire, England "

[ElizabethHerts]

Thank you, Phoenix.

Just eating - back in a while....

[ElizabethHerts]

Edward Newton was a widower when he married Charlotte in 1841.

[Phoenix]

This gives Edward's grave details, should anyone be added to the same grave:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FLINCS%2FBOSTON_ST_BOTOLPH_PAR_1_ 65B%2F0313&parentid=GBPRS%2FLINCS%2FBUR%2F00224497

[ElizabethHerts]

I can't find what happened to Charlotte yet. In 1861 she is a mattress maker in Boston. Son Charles isn't with her.

[Phoenix]

There is a Charles in Spalding in 1861, with an Isaac b Boston who is a joiner.

I cannot find Isaac Bartholomew's baptism c 1820. He marries Matilda and in 1841 is still in Boston:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record/browse?id=gbc%2f1841%2f0613%2f0216


extreme bottom right hand side. Bet he's Charlotte's brother.

[Phoenix]

This is probably Charlotte in 1871, enumerated as Nutton:


https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7619/images/LINRG10_3323_3326-0020?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=a11a885758de1d904eb6f6c15818af29&pId=4782690

[ElizabethHerts]

There is a Charles in Spalding in 1861, with an Isaac b Boston who is a joiner.

I cannot find Isaac Bartholomew's baptism c 1820. He marries Matilda and in 1841 is still in Boston:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record/browse?id=gbc%2f1841%2f0613%2f0216


extreme bottom right hand side. Bet he's Charlotte's brother.

Bartholomew Isaac Bowers baptised 25 Jan 1820 St Botolph, Boston

I already had put him in my tree.

[Merry]

I can't find what happened to Charlotte yet. In 1861 she is a mattress maker in Boston. Son Charles isn't with her.

I've only read this post, not the rest of the thread, but is this her?

Charlotte Nulton (Ancestry transcription)
1814 Boston Lincolnshire England Boarder Spalding, Lincolnshire

Deaths Sep 1873 (>99%)
Newton Charlotte 60 Spalding 7a 217

[ElizabethHerts]

I've only read this post, not the rest of the thread, but is this her?

Charlotte Nulton (Ancestry transcription)
1814 Boston Lincolnshire England Boarder Spalding, Lincolnshire

Deaths Sep 1873 (>99%)
Newton Charlotte 60 Spalding 7a 217

Thanks, Merry, it is probably her.

[ElizabethHerts]

The burial is on 14th July 1873 at Spalding. No details other than her age.

[Phoenix]

This tree has Charles Bower:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/17088181/person/292235990029/facts


He marries in Holborn, of all places, and says his father is CHARLES Bower, a shoemaker. I wonder which (if any) of the three "facts" is correct?