GRO index Q

[Merry]

I just looked up a birth reg on the GRO official site and after the usual index info is written, "Occasional copy:A"

Any ideas what ths could mean? The entry is from 1920. The entry doesn't have any additional notation on th GRO page on FreeBMD.

[Janet]

Merry, I see quite a few hits to explore when I use
("Occasional copy:A" AND GRO)
as a search term. I tried both DuckDuckGo and Google. Hits on both.
Include all the punctuation and be sure the word AND is in all caps.

[kiterunner]

I think it usually means that a correction was made to the registration.

[Merry]

Thanks Janet, I'll have a look later. Right in the middle of a difficult bit of research at the mo!

[Merry]

I think it usually means that a correction was made to the registration.

Interesting. A pity they don't seem to have corrected the mmn as it starts with a different letter to all the others!

[ElizabethHerts]

I have found this:

HYDE, FREDERICK TURNER
GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in ASHTON UNDER LYNE Volume 08D Page 486 Occasional Copy: A

The parents were George Edward Hyde and Helen, maiden name Turner.
Helen died in Q4 1867.

They married on 28th December 1865. This boy "Frederick" appears to have been their only child.

The only person I can find is Philip Hyde. In 1871 he is with his maternal aunt Mary Kirkham (sister of his mother) and in 1881 he is with his father.
Can I assume that a correction was made to change his name from Frederick to Philip?


FMP has this but not Frederick. GRO doesn't have Philip, only Frederick!

First name(s) Philip
Last name Hyde
Birth quarter 2
Birth year 1867
Mother's maiden name -
District Ashton under Lyne
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8D
Page 487
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

[kiterunner]

That is weird. He is Frederick on Cheshire BMD too. Philip on FreeBMD. Surely the page number on the GRO site must be wrong?

[ElizabethHerts]

How odd! I didn't notice the discrepancy in page number before, Kate.

I should look for his baptism.

[Merry]

It's on FMP Elizabeth. Also look at his entry on the 1939 Register and you will see another quite annoying discrepancy!! :D

[Olde Crone]

Deleted.

(Sorry, just noticed Kate's post, durh.)

OC

[Merry]

The last post here:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=862475.9

also mentions a different page number between the GRO index and others. Unfortunately no one has commented on it.

[Phoenix]

A higher page number does not imply a later date, as I found to my cost when I ordered the wrong death certificate, based on date of burial.

While you ought to be declaring a birth in the sub registration district where it happened, there might be reasons for it being re-registered somewere else.

I note, however, that the image that FreeBMD has worked from is a typed one. I've never heard anyone from GRO explain the control process to ensure that no additional errors crept in, and as the original records were destroyed, we have no idea what the handwritten registers might have said.

[kiterunner]

No, but looking at the other records with the same page number as Frederick / Philip, there are (according to FreeBMD) 10 on page 487 including Philip, and 10 on page 486 not including him.

[ElizabethHerts]

It's on FMP Elizabeth. Also look at his entry on the 1939 Register and you will see another quite annoying discrepancy!! :D

29th March instead of 29th May.

This man is one of OH's Hall descendants. I've got rather carried away!

[kiterunner]

I just remembered there is someone in my tree whose name was registered as Richard and then changed to Maurice. He is indexed under both names on FreeBMD, with the page numbers 673 and 673a respectively, but on the GRO site he is only listed as Richard, page 673, occasional copy A.