Sim family of Gamrie

[ElizabethHerts]

Still searching for James Sim!

I'm investigating this family:

James Sim born c. 1840 at Forgue, Aberdeen
wife Helen
children William, James, Helen, Alexander Smith

Marriage:
SIM JAMES
LORIMER HELEN
Year 1861
Ref. 149/ 3
Place Boyndie




1861 Census
Braeface Of Collconard, Banff Landward, Banffshire
James Sim Servant Mar M 21 Ploughman Born Forgue, Aberdeenshire
wife not with him
Working for the Hart family

1871 Census
Montbletton, Gamrie, Banffshire, Scotland
James Sim Head M 31 yob 1840 Ag Lab Born Forgue, Aberdeenshire
Helen Sim Wife F 30 yob 1841 Born Boyndie, Banffshire
William Sim Son M 9 yob 1862 Scholar Born Boyndie, Banffshire
James Sim Son M 7 yob 1864 Scholar Born Boyndie, Banffshire
Helen Sim Daughter F 1 yob 1870 Born Gamrie, Banffshire

1881 Census
Montbletton, Gamrie, Banffshire, Scotland
James Sim Head Married M 41 yob 1840 Cattleman born Forgue, Aberdeenshire
Helen Sim Wife Married F 41 yob 1840 born Boyndie, Banffshire
James Sim Son Unm M 17 yob 1864 Writer born Boyndie, Banffshire
Helen Sim Daughter F 11 yob 1870 Scholar born Gamrie, Banffshire
Alexander Smith Son M 0 yob 1881 born Gamrie, Banffshire

1891 Census
Silverhillocks, Gamrie, Macduff, Banffshire, Scotland
James Sime Head Mar M 51 yob 1840 Crofter born Banffshire
Helen Sime Wife Mar F 51 yob 1840 born Boyndie, Banffshire
Helen Sim Daughter Unm F 21 yob 1870 born Banffshire
Alexander S Sime Son M 10 yob 1881 Scholar born Gamrie, Banffshire

1901 Census
Silver Hillocks Croft, Gamrie, Macduff, Banffshire, Scotland
James Sim Head Mar M 61 yob 1940 Crofter born Banffshire
Helen Sim Wife Mar F 61 yob 1840 Crofter’s wife born Boyndie, Banffshire
Annabella Porter Servant Single F 14 yob 1887 General Servant born Turriff, Aberdeenshire

[ElizabethHerts]

Part 2:

It seems that William and Alexander Smith Sim went to New York:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/142423432/alexander-smith-sim

William is buried there too.

I found this on Ancestry:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/mediaui-viewer/tree/155051158/person/162057190893/media/8099f3ce-4a27-424b-9cbb-5b48573cca0c?_phsrc=MgJ3859&_phstart=successSource

Nellie must be Helen.

There is an obituary on Ancestry for Dr Alexander Smith Sim and other information, which I can't view as I don't have a worldwide subscription.

Could someone please tell me what the obituary says?

I'm hoping if the father James Sim is the father of my Isabella Richardson a DNA match might pop up sometime.


I still have to eliminate the other James Sims!

[Janet]

Among other interesting things, Elizabeth, it says:

"Dr. Alexander S. Sim, 51, head of the Delsim Sanatorium, 61 Greene ave., and a practising physician in Brooklyn for the past 25 years, died yesterday in his home, 400 Clinton ave. Death was due to heart disease.
[...]
"Mrs. Lorna Sim, his wife, and two brothers, James and William, survive."

I've PM'd you.

[maggie_4_7]

Even with a World Wide sub I can't access those obituaries because it directs you to Newspapers.com.

[ElizabethHerts]

Even with a World Wide sub I can't access those obituaries because it directs you to Newspapers.com.

Thanks for looking, Maggie.


Janet, many thanks! Dr Alexander Smith Sim did well for the son of an ag. lab. / crofter.

[maggie_4_7]

Thanks for looking, Maggie.


Janet, many thanks! Dr Alexander Smith Sim did well for the son of an ag. lab. / crofter.

Yes I looked last night, always tempted to subscribe but haven't heard good reports about Newspapers.com.

[Janet]

Hm, this cause of death contradicts the newspaper obit which said he had a heart attack.
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61778&h=2031466&tid=&pid=&queryId=af93a39245b097313c96eaa09e26759f&usePUB=true&_phsrc=rAa3180&_phstart=successSource
They've also mistranscribed his wife's name as Loma rather than Lorna and possibly his birth date as well. Not to mention the word 'Occuring' which appears as 'Accuning' - ouch.

Have you examined that gravestone pictured on Find A Grave closely enough to see the several other names and dates at its base?

I think my access to newspapers.com must have come bundled with a discounted Fold3 sub I picked up a while back.

[ElizabethHerts]

Janet, it's hard to read the gravestone. You'd need a better image.

I can't view the Ancestry link because I don't have a worldwide subscription.

[Janet]

Alexander S Sim
in the New York, New York, U.S., Index to Death Certificates, 1862-1948

Name: Alexander S Sim
Gender: Male
Race: White
Marital status: Married
Age: 50
Birth Date: 29 May 1880
Birth Place: Scotland
Years in US: 30 Years
Death Date: 15 Sep 1930
Death Street Address: 400 Clinton Av
Death Place: New York City, Brooklyn, New York, USA
Cause of Death: Cerebral Hemorrhage Accuning in Sleep
Burial Date: 18 Sep 1930
Burial Place: Evergreen Cemetery
Occupation: Physician
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Father: James Sim
Mother: Helen Sim
Executor: Loma Lyons Sim
Executor Relationship: Wife
Certificate Number: 18373

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On Find A Grave, go to the third photo and right-click on it, then 'Open image in new tab' and from there if necessary you might blow it up even more. But here it is. (Scroll down.)

https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2015/77/142423432_1426816001.jpg

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks, Janet, it all ties up nicely.

I'd really like to know if his father James Sim is my great-great-grandfather or not!