not sure if this is the right place for probate help?

[brenmac]

i have seen on ancestry that edward holder born 1797 and died 1846 there is something in the uk extracted probate records in gloucestershire,anyone help me please brenda xxxx

[brenmac]

Holder, Edward, Gloucester 96
Book: Burialls 1604. (Burial)
Collection: Gloucestershire: - Wills Proved in The Court of Bishop of Gloucester, 1660-1800
it was found on ftf,thankyou thought i would let you know so your not looking.many thanks brenda x

[kiterunner]

I can't get the Gloucestershire archives site to load at all at the moment to check whether it's listed in their online catalogue.

[brenmac]

many thanks brendaxxxx.i would love any info on holders.brenda xxxx

[scuda]

Brenda, That can't be Edward Holder died 1846 as it says it's wills proved 1660 - 1800. There's nothing listed on the Gloucester Archives database for Edward Holder anytime after 1800, but several before that. Where in Glos were your Holders from?

scuda

[kiterunner]

There is lots of Holder stuff listed on the Gloucestershire Archives genealogical search, including some Edward Holders, but not 1846. It doesn't list one who died in 1604 either, so I'm guessing that one listed on ancestry was a burial rather than probate. If you want to search for what Gloucestershire Archives has on its online catalogue, this is the link to the search:

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx

[scuda]

Kite, I don't think that 1604 as in Book: Burialls 1604. (Burial)
indicates a date of death. I haven't worked it out yet, but I know if I search for Pitman in Gloucestershire I get around 20 coming up, all with that reference. It's just the place and number following it which change.
If you can work out what it all means I'd be interested to know!

scuda

[brenmac]

Brenda, That can't be Edward Holder died 1846 as it says it's wills proved 1660 - 1800. There's nothing listed on the Gloucester Archives database for Edward Holder anytime after 1800, but several before that. Where in Glos were your Holders from?

scuda

taynton they were big land owners and burried in st lawrences chuch.they ownd taynton hous from the 1600,to 1900,s.big cider makers.they date from 1500,john holder was the first owner.brenda xxxx

[scuda]

The Gloucester Archives database that Kite linked to lists wills for five Holders in Taynton: Edward, 1613, John 1758, and 3 Roberts (1671, 1684, 1769).

scuda

[brenmac]

The Gloucester Archives database that Kite linked to lists wills for five Holders in Taynton: Edward, 1613, John 1758, and 3 Roberts (1671, 1684, 1769).

scuda

thats mine is there one for1797 died 1847. i will try to put the page i have on here.its very dog eared as i have had it 4 years and written on it also spilt ink on it. brenda xxxx

[scuda]

Brenda, The only Holders listed in Taynton are the five I mentioned. It's easy to do your own search if you follow Kite's link. Maybe the will wasn't proved in Gloucester, in which case it won't be on their database.

The wills that are on the database are all on microfiche at the Archives, so they may be able to copy them for you, but if the wills are long it might work out quite expensive. It might be worth ringing up to check.

scuda

[brenmac]

i have a name william holder in a deed dated 1614,but its in some papers i have.will of john holder elder of churcham april 24th 1538.roger 1563 church warden in court,1575 in a petition to a lord bughley on images in the church.is there anyway of seeing these? brenda xxx

[brenmac]

http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk479/brendamccartie/th_holderpapers.jpg (http://s311.photobucket.com/albums/kk479/brendamccartie/?action=view&current=holderpapers.jpg)
hope you can read it.i got it from glouester records office when i went for a day 4 years ago.i have been trying to connect my holders to them.brenda xxx

[scuda]

Brenda, Have you seen this? http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=QmwwAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA100&dq=holder+taynton&cd=10#v=onepage&q=holder%20taynton&f=false

Hope the link works, you need to start on page 97.

scuda

[brenmac]

Thankyou,i tried to print it of but i cant i have saved to my fav many many thanks brenda xxx