Who were the parents of Richard Blechynden White (part 1)

[Phoenix]

I am looking to find out more about the parents of Richard Blechynden White.

Richard Blechynden White was born in 1848 in Portsmouth, the son of William White, a fish salesman of Bath Square and his wife Maria Beale.
The pair married 23 July 1834 at St Mary’s Portsea

Here they are in 1851, with children Wllliam, Thomas, John, Maria, James, Alfred, Richard himself, and Ellen [Julia].
The parents and first three children born in Landport and the younger children in Portsmouth.
William was born c 1813 and Maria c 1815
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8860/images/HAMHO107_1658_1658-0523?ssrc=&backlabel=Return&pId=5774954

It is possibly significant that next door are Louisa and Fanny Byles, 44 and 42 respectively, daughters of William and Ann Byles from Bosham, Sussex.

Here is the family in 1841, in Tower Street Portsmouth:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8978/images/HAMHO107_412_412-0065?treeid=174595809&personid=392286940600&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=lHX461&_phstart=successSource&pId=2481393

This is Maria’s birth:
WHITE, MARIA JULIA BENLI [sic]
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 07 Page 159
And she was baptised the following year.

The parents, William and Maria both died before the 1861 census.
The eldest son, William, who had married a girl from Bosham:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2%2FGBPRS%2FPORTSMOUTH%2F008065796%2F00 421&parentid=GBPRS%2FPORTSMOUTH%2FMAR%2F00118179%2F2
moved back into Bath Square with the two youngest children.

William White appears to be the son of John White and Julia nee BYLES.
This is their marriage in 1812:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2%2FGBPRS%2FPORTSMOUTH%2F007907178%2F00 353&parentid=GBPRS%2FPORTSMOUTH%2FMAR%2F00026874%2F1
Witnesses are the groom from the previous wedding and Rich’d Gudge, a serial witness.
I would like to think that Julia is related to Fanny and Louisa Byles, possibly their aunt.
Can anyone find anything out about her? I can’t spot her anywhere.

This is her burial, Sept 26 1841 aged 50 from St Mary Street
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2%2FGBPRS%2FPORTSMOUTH%2F105333047%2F00 008&parentid=GBPRS%2FPORTSMOUTH%2FCEMETERY%2F00000096

Her husband John is buried from Bath Square, in the same area of the cemetery in 1852:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2%2FGBPRS%2FPORTSMOUTH%2F105333048%2F00 122&parentid=GBPRS%2FPORTSMOUTH%2FCEMETERY%2F00009084

I think that Richard’s middle name is a complete red herring. This is Richard Blechynden’s marriage:


https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2%2FGBPRS%2FPORTSMOUTH%2F007907187%2F00 161&parentid=GBPRS%2FPORTSMOUTH%2FMAR%2F00051796%2F1
he and his wife were fishmongers, and I suspect that he may have been Richard’s godfather.

[JBee]

Got wrong Maria - the above has mmn Benli

[kiterunner]

Won't Benli be a mistranscription of Beale?

[kiterunner]

I suppose this is John and Julia in 1841, though Julia's age is shown as 55:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8978/images/HAMHO107_412_412-0160?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Ctf25298&_phstart=successSource&pId=2484149

Julia not born in county, so that would fit with her being from Sussex.

[Phoenix]

Indeed, Kite. The baptism, the following year, has the right parents. Like so many in Portsmouth, the family is continually on the move, until it settles in Bath Square.

This, by the way, is John and Julia White, Richard's grandparents, in St Mary Street in 1841: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8978/images/HAMHO107_412_412-0160?ssrc=&backlabel=Return&pId=2484149

[Phoenix]

Snap, Kite. I don't trust Julia's age at burial, any more than her age in 1841.

[kiterunner]

There is a William Byles marriage to Ann Johnson or Johnstone on FMP, 1803, Bucklebury, Berkshire.

[kiterunner]

This could be William Byles in 1841 - surname Boiles.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8978/images/SSXHO107_1099_1099-0188?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Ctf25299&_phstart=successSource&pId=14632351

Age 64, blacksmith, born in county, but everyone on the page has yes for born in county so may not be accurate.

[kiterunner]

Well, o.k., in 1851 William Biles is age 73, born Bosham, Sussex.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8860/images/SSXHO107_1655_1655-0246?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Ctf25300&_phstart=successSource&pId=3374094

[kiterunner]

William Byle baptised 8 Jun 1777 at Bosham, parents James and Anne.

[Phoenix]

Thanks, Kite. It's interesting that he's also running a beer shop - no doubt where Louisa acquired the skills tobea victualler, and also that he's a blacksmith - William White junior's son marrid a blacksmith's daughter from Bosham.

[Phoenix]

Note for reference that John White and Julia's children were:
William
John
James
Julia Ann
George Edward
Charles Henry
Edmund Joseph
Josiah Alfred

[Phoenix]

It also looks as if John White may have remarried, to Sarah Peachey nee Goodwin.

This looks like them in1851, at the back of Tower Street:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8860/images/HAMHO107_1658_1658-0549?ssrc=&backlabel=Return&pId=5775416

The unlikely child appears to be URIAH Peachey b March quarter 1838