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Phoenix
17-04-21, 19:33
My ancestor John Horne lost his wife Mary in 1738/9, just after the birth of their son John. Mary was buried in South Newton, Wilts.

John's next known child, Mary, was bp in South Newton 13 March 1742/3. Mary's mother is Anne.

They had another three children:
another John 1745
Robert 1748
Nehemiah (not a known family name) 1751

So, if a marriage took place, it was some time between 1739 and 1742.

And there is a marriage that fits the bill:

John Horn m Ann Miller 28 Jun 1739 Orcheston St Mary, Wiltshire, England

Unfortunately, this is a transcript. I cannot find the register on Ancestry.
Nor can I find any information about the parish registers.

It would make perfect sense that John, with an unweaned child on his hands, remarries very quickly. However, I would like to see the proof.

Genuki is no help, and Wiltshire & Swindon Archives only mention Orcheston St George.

Can anyone suggest where the records might be? It seems unlikely that they would still be held in the parish.

ElizabethHerts
17-04-21, 19:53
The PRs are on Family Search but not viewable from home. You need to go to a centre.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/film/008072644?cat=346225

Phoenix
17-04-21, 19:58
Ooh, thank you, Elizabeth!

Katarzyna
17-04-21, 22:08
Genuki is no help, and Wiltshire & Swindon Archives only mention Orcheston St George.


Strange as Family Search say these records for Parish registers for Orcheston-St. Mary, 1608-1971 - are from "Microfilm of original records in the Wiltshire Record Office, Trowbridge"

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/346225?availability=Family%20History%20Library

Phoenix
17-04-21, 22:59
It is very odd.

Wiltshire's online catalogue looks as if it ran out of money before it was completed, probably ten years ago. But if the records had been filmed, you would have thought they would have been made available online - unless there was an ojection from the parish. Wierdly, there are no wills for there either.

kiterunner
18-04-21, 08:52
Ancestry does have some of the PR's and BT's for Orcheston St Mary, but is missing a few years around the date that you want.

kiterunner
18-04-21, 08:53
Also it is listed on the Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre parish register list:

https://wshc.org.uk/104-parish-register-list-k-z#O

Phoenix
18-04-21, 11:44
Thank you, Kite. Interestingly, it looks as if Ann's surname was probably Millard, not Miller.

And doing other searches DO reveal wills for Orcheston St Mary.

I can see from fmp that the transcript was from the Nimrod Index. I did a small bit of indexing for this years ago, for Barbara Carter. She must have had access to records. Clearly the next step is to contact the record office.

Interestingly, it looks as if another brickwall might be lurking, waiting to be knocked down in this parish.

So grateful for your and Kat's help. It demonstrates more unknown unknowns.