employment

[benrymnd]

Is there anywhere that I can find a persons job title especialy people born in the 1700 and who died before the censuses.

[kiterunner]

Sometimes baptism records give the father's occupation. Sometimes marriage records give the groom's occupation. Also burial records sometimes give occupation. It just depends on the particular parish register. A person's will usually has their occupation at the beginning, but of course not everyone left a will.

Are you trying to find a particular person's occupation, and if so, who?

[benrymnd]

Thanks, kiterunner trying to trace Henry Bennetts job description born 19th Sept 1736 in Upholland Lancashire, and Thomas Bennett born 1761 Ormskirk Lancashire

[kiterunner]

Was Thomas Henry's son?

[kiterunner]

Okay, looking at some trees on Ancestry, it seems that Henry Bennett is the one who married Hannah Stanley 18 Dec 1757 at All Saints, Wigan. Is that right? If so, then Lancashire OPC says their marriage was by licence, so you could see whether you can find their marriage licence allegation and / or bond, and see whether his occupation is shown. Also look for an image of the actual parish register marriage record just in case.

Also the tree I am looking at says he was buried 2 May 1790 Wigan, so if that's correct, Lancashire OPC has a transcription of his burial record - St Thomas the Martyr, Upholland, with his occupation given as Delfman. The "Dictionary of Old Occupations" defines this as "worked in a mine or quarry, also referred to as a delve. Alternatively, may refer to a merchant selling glazed earthenware pottery originally from Delft". But if I were you, I would look for an image of the actual record to check it has been transcribed correctly.

[kiterunner]

Also, the tree on Ancestry shows Jane Bennet born 1761 as a daughter of Henry and Hannah. Lancashire OPC has a transcription of Jane's baptism record 22 Nov 1761 at St Thomas the Martyr, Upholland, with father as Henry Bennet, a weaver. So it would be worth looking through the baptisms of any other children of Henry's to see if his occupaton is given on those too.

[Olde Crone]

I have someone on my tree who "died in a delph(sic)" and the newspaper report of his death described him as working in a quarry. This was in Lancashire and I think therefore this occupation is more likely than a dealer in delftware.

Aside - maybe the origin of the expression "to dig and delve"?

OC

[benrymnd]

Thank you kiterunner the Henry you have is my Henry cannot thank you enough.
On a different tack do you know what origin means on the search in Ellis island

[kiterunner]

Can you link to the page where you are seeing that, please? I can't see it on the search page that I am looking at.

[benrymnd]

Name
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[kiterunner]

Yes, but which site is it on, please? I assumed you meant the Ellis Island site, but now I'm not so sure?

[benrymnd]

it is Ellis island

[kiterunner]

I still haven't found the exact same screen you are looking at but I found a search field called Name of Town/Village of Origin, so it could be that?

[Janet]

Thank you kiterunner the Henry you have is my Henry cannot thank you enough.
On a different tack do you know what origin means on the search in Ellis island
Can you link to the page where you are seeing that, please? I can't see it on the search page that I am looking at.
Name
First and middle name(s)


Last name

Birth
Year
Calculate it
Place

Arrival year

Origin

Ship name

Keywords

Exact searchWith translations Search


Benrymnd, I think you must be looking on the MyHeritage site in their Ellis Island and Other New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 collection. Is that right?

https://www.myheritage.com/research/collection-10512/ellis-island-other-new-york-passenger-lists-1820-1957?s=692424721

Toward the top of that page, at the end of the paragraph ending 'and Ellis Island (1892-1957)', there is a little down-arrow, and clicking that will bring up some additional text to explain that:

Depending on the year, information recorded about a passenger may include name, age, gender, occupation, destination, and information regarding place of origin—e.g. native country, citizenship status, race, nationality, birthplace, or last residence.

Does that answer your question about their use of the term 'origin'?

[benrymnd]

yes, that is correct and it does answer my question. Thank you for your help