1911 search help

[Margaret in Burton]

Can anyone help me find these people in 1911?

1901 I have Stephen and Annie Nowland

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7814&iid=LNDRG13_395_396-0405&fn=Stephen&ln=Nowland&st=r&ssrc=&pid=3206877

I have their marriage cert from 1900, same spelling of Nowland which I would imagine can have some mistranscriptions.

A contact sent me a copy of this cert and told me they had 2 children Florence and Stephen. Either they didn't tell me years of birth, didn't know or I didn't make a note of them.

My connection is though Annie, also Annie Minnie or just Minnie maiden name Flack. She also apparently had an illegitimate daughter Minnie which is who my connection was descended from. I have no details on her either. This contact was ages ago.

I cannot find them in 1911, can't find births for the children with any certainty or any deaths.

They should be living in London, possibly Bermondsey area.

[Merry]

I know Ancestry has quite a few mistranscriptions, but there are no deaths for Annie, Stephen, senr or junr, or marriages/early death for Florence (except that one Florence Maud b 1903 who belongs to different parents), so might they have emigrated? If not, then maybe they changed their name spelling!

[Margaret in Burton]

No, don't think they emigrated.

I wonder if I still have the email addy of the person who sent me the marriage cert. I "think" I remember who it was.

[Merry]

Oh, dad was Nowlan by birth reg,

Births Jun 1875
Nowlan Stephen James R St. Olave 1d 217
Nowlan Stephen James R St. Olave 1d 247



so is this his son?

Births Jun 1904
Nolan Stephen James R St. Olave 1d 244


Name: Stephen James R Nolan
Birth Date: 19 May 1904
Death Registration Month/Year: 1981
Registration district: Hastings & Rother
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 0871

[Merry]

Dad:

Name: Stephen J R Nowlan
Death Registration Month/Year: 1940
Age at death (estimated): 65
Registration district: Bermondsey
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 164

[kiterunner]

Can't see any sign of them, sorry.

[Margaret in Burton]

Yes, that's them Merry.

I have emailed the person who I got the original info from. He may have changed his email addy. Just looked for him on FB, can't see him.

So, they didn't emigrate so where the heck are they in 1911?

[Merry]

Marg, they are under Volan!!

[Margaret in Burton]

Off to have a look, thanks Merry

[Margaret in Burton]

I've been looking for 2 days and you find them straight away.

Minnie Flack isn't there though, Annie's illegitimate daughter.

It says all of the children were born in Suffolk, which I doubt. I don't think they filled that part in. Annie was born in Suffolk, they have put the address 13 Raingate St. At least it proves it's the right person.

[Merry]

What about Minnie Flack? I can't see her in 1901????

[Margaret in Burton]

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu326/margharrison/1911Nolan.jpg

[Margaret in Burton]

I know nothing about Minnie other than what my contact told me ages ago, the fact she existed and was Annie's illegitimate child.

I'll have to hope he gets back to me.

She was obviously born between 1891 where Annie or Minnie whichever she wants to be called was with her family in Bury St Edmunds and 1900 when she married Stephen in Southwark.

[Margaret in Burton]

1911 census says that they had 5 children, one died. Is that Minnie? I know they shouldn't count her as she wasn't from the marriage.

[Merry]

I feel this one is more likely as they probably had a child sooner after the marriage than Stephen (b 1904):

Births Dec 1901
NOLAN Annie Emma St. Olave 1d 252


Deaths Jun 1903
Nolan Annie Emma 1 St. Olave 1d 104

[Margaret in Burton]

What do you reckon to this: all St Olave

Stephen (already found) Jun qtr 1904 1d 244

Lily - Lilian Rose Dec qtr 1906 1d 198

Jack - John Christopher Mar qtr 1908 1d 198

Florence - Florence May Mar qtr 1910 1d 216

Possibly the child they lost was born between their marriage in 1900 and Stephen's birth in 1904.

[Merry]

Possibly the child they lost was born between their marriage in 1900 and Stephen's birth in 1904.

Indeedy! See my last post! :D

[Margaret in Burton]

I feel this one is more likely as they probably had a child sooner after the marriage than Stephen (b 1904):

Births Dec 1901
NOLAN Annie Emma St. Olave 1d 252


Deaths Jun 1903
Nolan Annie Emma 1 St. Olave 1d 104

I saw that birth, hadn't got round to checking deaths.

[Merry]

I've been looking for Minnie, or any Flack females, b abt 1895-1900, but nothing is fitting. I hope you manage to contact your contact.

[Margaret in Burton]

I've been looking for Minnie, or any Flack females, b abt 1895-1900, but nothing is fitting. I hope you manage to contact your contact.

Me too

[Margaret in Burton]

Nobody on GR with those names.