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Phoenix
13-11-20, 14:31
Line 14 of this will describes the testator's son Edward Fortescue:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/5111/images/40611_311098-00535?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=10ddf50b082e48a66369218201f4e748&pId=1017326


While I think I can read what it says, I have not a clue where he is in prison. Can anyone make a stab at this? This is page 2 of John Fortsecue's will, written in 1601.

ElizabethHerts
13-11-20, 14:44
It looks like: "Spanish Truncke in Litchborne". :o

But it doesn't make sense!!

Phoenix
13-11-20, 14:50
That's what I thought - to both statements!

I did wonder whether it was a prison in Lisbon, Portugal, but cannot find any references.

ElizabethHerts
13-11-20, 14:53
When I googled, I kept seeing pictures of trunks made in Spain!

I have been trying to discover what was happening in Spain at the time but no joy so far.

Merry
13-11-20, 14:59
When I googled, I kept seeing pictures of trunks made in Spain!
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That's better that sites about World of Warcraft!

kiterunner
13-11-20, 17:21
I do think Litchborne could be Lisbon, but not found anything to back it up, nor what the Spanish Truncke could be.

Phoenix
13-11-20, 20:47
Thanks everyone. I had hoped that a phrase clearly to be understood at the time might have been echoed elsewhere. Others have suggested it is Lisbon, but nobody has given a meaning to Spanish Truncke.

kiterunner
13-11-20, 22:14
I looked through the OED entry for "trunk" via my library website but nothing in there seemed to fit.

Phoenix
14-11-20, 12:07
Thanks, Kite. My shorter OED has a huge variety of meanings, but none the precise one. I assume it was like a black hole of Calcutta.

Mary from Italy
16-11-20, 19:30
I have been trying to discover what was happening in Spain at the time but no joy so far.

This sort of thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sesimbra_Bay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Spanish_War_(1585–1604)

Phoenix
16-11-20, 20:05
Thank you, Mary.

It seems very clear that most of the privateers had West Country routes and I suspec that Edward merely got his come-uppance.