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benrymnd
09-09-20, 17:58
Could anyone help I have a Mathew Danson in my tree born 1773 in Scholes wigan I would like to find out his occupation and where he married plus his parents names.tried all the usual research sights but cannot find any of the information I need.
kiterunner
09-09-20, 18:27
Can you tell us who his child was or who his children were that you know of, so we don't get the wrong person, please?
Olde Crone
09-09-20, 18:32
Maybe this one?

Matthew Danson born14 March, bap 20 March 1785 All Saints Wigan, eighth son of Roger Danson and Betty Walsh. Roger a carpenter of Scoles. Betty's parents James and Margaret Walsh. But you do need to link back to this.

OC
Merry
09-09-20, 18:56
There are a lot of Ancestry trees with Matthew Danson b 1773 (most don't have a place) and died:

DANSON, MATTHEW 68
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in WIGAN Volume 21 Page 551

Burial:

Matthew Danson
abt 1773 6 Jun 1841 Wigan , All Saints

Marriage 16/06/1793 Billinge Lancashire England to Helen or Ellen Aspinall

Quite a few children. Most of the baptisms on Lancs OPC show mmn.
kiterunner
09-09-20, 19:06
I guess he won't be on the 1841 census, then, since it was supposed to list people by where they spent the night of 6th June.
kiterunner
09-09-20, 19:08
Okay, then, if he is the one who married Helen Aspinall in 1793, Lancashire OPC (Online Parish Clerks) website has transcribed the marriage record and says he was a weaver, so that's two questions answered.

Marriage: 16 Jun 1793 St Aidan, Billinge, Lancashire, England
Matthew Danson - Weaver
Helen Aspinall - (X), Spinster, this parish
Witness: James Dawber; Nancy Aspinall, (X)
Banns Read: 26 May 1793, 2nd: 2 Jun 1793, 3rd: 9 Jun 1793
Married by Banns by: R. Carr, Curate
Register: Marriages 1787 - 1799, Page 122, Entry 488
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

(copied from Lancs OPC)
kiterunner
09-09-20, 19:11
Maybe this one?

Matthew Danson born14 March, bap 20 March 1785 All Saints Wigan, eighth son of Roger Danson and Betty Walsh. Roger a carpenter of Scoles. Betty's parents James and Margaret Walsh. But you do need to link back to this.



We can rule that one out, OC, because there is a burial 4 Jul 1796 age 10.
kiterunner
09-09-20, 19:16
Looking through Lancs OPC for children of the couple, it seems that most of the baptisms give the maternal grandparents' names (William and Elizabeth / Betty Aspinall), and confirm that Matthew was a weaver. Their first son is mistranscribed as Ranson, first name Thomas. The second son was named William, so it is quite likely (but of course not certain) that Matthew's father's name was Thomas. Also their first daughter was named Peggy and their second Betty, so maybe Matthew's mother was called Peggy / Margaret.
kiterunner
09-09-20, 19:20
And there was at least one Thomas and Margaret Danson couple having children baptised at All Saints Wigan between 1753 and 1777. From 1757 onwards their abode is Scoles (or Scholes). Only problem is there is no Matthew listed.

BUT - there is a Matthew Danser, baptised 28 Aug 1774 All Saints Wigan, parents Thos and Margret, abode Scholes. So I expect that is him. Maybe we can find the actual images of the parish register online later.
Merry
09-09-20, 20:12
Oooh, I went out for a walk! Here's the image, about 1/3 of the way down the left page:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/9038/images/41177_334181-00344?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=a14d3e1597603ea081c9862870248ae0&pId=240216
kiterunner
09-09-20, 22:00
Thanks, Merry. It does say Danser on the image but I still think it is the right family.
Merry
09-09-20, 22:30
Yes, I agree.
benrymnd
10-09-20, 12:55
his children were margaret (peggy)william,mathew,william,mary,ann,mary.
kiterunner
10-09-20, 13:22
Thanks. It sounds as though we are looking at the same family, then. These are the baptisms from Lancs OPC, though there seem to be a couple missing:

13 Oct 1793 Peggy - first daur (born 21 Sep)
9 Nov 1794 Betty - second daur (born 20 Oct)
1 May 1796 Thomas - first son (Ranson on Lancs OPC) (born 19 Apr)
30 Jan 1799 William - second son (born 27 Dec)
6 Aug 1801 Matthew - third son (born 7 Jul)
3 Apr 1803 William - fifth son (born 21 Mar)
5 May 1805 Nelly - third daur (Dunson on Lancs OPC) (born 16 Apr)
29 Mar 1807 Sally - fourth daur (born 17 Mar)
2 Oct 1808 Mary - fifth daur (born 26 Sep)
12 Apr 1812 Ann - seventh daur (born 2 Apr)

There is also a burial for William 1 Feb 1798 age 2 weeks, and Mary 14 Aug 1809 age 10 months. So it looks as though the number is wrong for second and third son in the baptisms - they should have been third and fourth. Maybe they didn't have time to get the first William baptised before he died.

Matthew's occupation changes from weaver to dyer in 1809.
benrymnd
10-09-20, 14:29
Thank you for all your replies.the post from kiterunner is the mathew I am researching and trying to find his parents.
kiterunner
10-09-20, 15:06
Well, then, his parents were Thomas and Margaret.
Merry
10-09-20, 16:58
Marriage: 22 Apr 1753 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Thos. Danson - Ince
Margaret Walsh - This Town
Married by Banns by: Mr Tho. Edge Curate
Source: Original Register at Wigan Archives

So, another Margaret Walsh!
benrymnd
11-09-20, 13:13
Once again thankyou kiterunner and Merry,can I be presumptious and ask where/what site do you go to and enter those vol and page numbers if they are online
Regards Ray
kiterunner
11-09-20, 13:20
If you mean post #4 giving the reference for the death certificate, it is this site to order the cert:

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

You can also search on FreeBMD but you can't order from there:
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/

We found the baptisms etc on Lancashire OPC:
http://lan-opc.org.uk/