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Phoenix
20-04-20, 12:53
My relation Charles Moore was bp April 1812, son of James and Sarah Moore of Hamworthy near Poole, Dorset.

He appears to have joined the Navy, sailed on the Atholl, and was discharged sick in 1831 - possibly in Africa?? :eek:


A Charles Moore married a Jane Lock widow in Poole in 1835. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2241/32435_239649-00499?pid=3062453&treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Leb15775&_phstart=successSource


Was this the same man? Can anyone find out anything about Jane? She was not the Jane living with the Hayward family in 1841. She was born Jane Elizabeth Hayward, married Henry Moores and had a son Henry Hayward Moores.


Any help/suggestions gratefully received. Moore can be rendered Moor(e)(s).

Merry
20-04-20, 13:14
married Henry Moores and had a son Henry Hayward Moores.


Should those two be Lock?

Phoenix
20-04-20, 13:25
This is the - so far as I am aware - unrelated marriage of Henry Moore (at best a cousin of Charles)

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2241/32435_239649-00553?pid=3062634&treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Leb15779&_phstart=successSource

kiterunner
20-04-20, 13:35
Should those two be Lock?

I think Phoenix is saying that her Jane Moore, formerly Lock, is not the Jane Moore(s) who was with the Hayward family in 1841 because that one is the Jane who was married to Henry Moores.

kiterunner
20-04-20, 13:37
Phoenix, one of the witnesses at Charles and Jane's wedding was a Wm H Moore. Did your Charles have a brother (or other relative) of that name?

kiterunner
20-04-20, 13:43
Here is the baptism of a Mary Moore, daughter of Charles and Jane, 29 Jun 1836 at Poole. Charles is a mariner:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2162/32435_239668-00293/4174051?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdbid%3d2162%26gsln%3dmo*r*%26gsfn_ x%3d1%26gsln_x%3d1%26cp%3d0%26msfng%3dcha*%26msfng _x%3d1%26msfns_x%3d1%26msmng%3djane%26msmng_x%3d1% 26msmns_x%3d1%26mspdy%3d1845%26mspdy_x%3d1%26mspdp %3d10%26hc%3d20%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26uidh%3dvm5% 26redir%3dfalse%26msT%3d1&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=3efb66e2986f31c1e131ec1eda6540ab

I was hoping to find a child born after 1837 so we could get Jane's maiden name, but not found one of those in Poole yet.

Phoenix
20-04-20, 13:45
No, his brothers were Robert and James. I imagine that the charles in the marriage was a much older man, but you could be a widow at twenty.

Merry
20-04-20, 13:48
I think Phoenix is saying that her Jane Moore, formerly Lock, is not the Jane Moore(s) who was with the Hayward family in 1841 because that one is the Jane who was married to Henry Moores.

Ah, I misunderstood. Thanks.

Phoenix
20-04-20, 13:52
Here is the baptism of a Mary Moore, daughter of Charles and Jane, 29 Jun 1836 at Poole. Charles is a mariner:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2162/32435_239668-00293/4174051?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdbid%3d2162%26gsln%3dmo*r*%26gsfn_ x%3d1%26gsln_x%3d1%26cp%3d0%26msfng%3dcha*%26msfng _x%3d1%26msfns_x%3d1%26msmng%3djane%26msmng_x%3d1% 26msmns_x%3d1%26mspdy%3d1845%26mspdy_x%3d1%26mspdp %3d10%26hc%3d20%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26uidh%3dvm5% 26redir%3dfalse%26msT%3d1&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=3efb66e2986f31c1e131ec1eda6540ab

I was hoping to find a child born after 1837 so we could get Jane's maiden name, but not found one of those in Poole yet.


Oh, well done!

kiterunner
20-04-20, 13:53
There is this family in 1841 at Wyke Regis but it isn't very close to Poole:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/8978/DORHO107_286_288-0101?pid=4798277&treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=dNx50659&_phstart=successSource

C Moore 25 Mariner N
Jane Do 30 N
Mary Do 5 Y
Elizabeth Do 3 Y
Charles Moore 1 Y.

Jane being older than "C" would fit with him being a bachelor and her being a widow when they married.

kiterunner
20-04-20, 13:57
Charles Henry Moore birth registered Jul-Sep 1840 Weymouth (which was the district for Wyke Regis), MMN Mollyneaux. Another witness at Charles and Jane's wedding was a Jemima Molineux, so I should think that 1841 census entry is the right one. And if it is correct about Charles not being born in Dorset, that would mean he isn't your Charles.

Phoenix
20-04-20, 13:58
Thanks, Kite. So this must be Charles jnr's birth:
MOORE, CHARLES HENRY MOLLYNEAUX
GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in WEYMOUTH Volume 08 Page 127

kiterunner
20-04-20, 14:01
Here they are in 1851:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/8860/DORHO107_1857_1857-0849?pid=5577026&treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=dNx50660&_phstart=successSource

I guess Charles sr was away at sea though.

Phoenix
20-04-20, 14:09
Snap, Kite.

Here is Jane's first marriage: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2241/32435_239649-00373/8186763?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdbid%3d2241%26gsfn%3dJane%26gsln%3 dmoll*%26cp%3d4%26_83004003-n_xcl%3dm%26msgpn__ftp%3dhamworthy%252c%2bdorset%2 52c%2bengland%252c%2bunited%2bkingdom%26msgpn%3d16 62488%26ssrc%3dpt_t49447998_p12989196793%26hc%3d50 %26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26uidh%3d9vh%26redir%3dfalse&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=953cf13a47afe94c74f56f68b09bc6dc

kiterunner
20-04-20, 14:28
William (age 7 in 1851) was registered as James William.

kiterunner
20-04-20, 15:22
I haven't been able to find them after 1851 to get Charles's birthplace, but the "no" on the 1841 census and the marriage witness being Wm H Moore suggest he isn't your Charles, don't you think, Phoenix?

Phoenix
20-04-20, 16:48
Hmm. This is Jane in 1861:

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBC%2F1861%2F0007790933


She may be with her daughter which is why she may have Poole as a birthplace. Her baptism is actually in Portsmouth.