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Janet
26-12-19, 18:39
I'd like to follow Henry Nayl?r back into Yorkshire with a little help from my friends, if possible.

Yes I know there are a lot of Naylors in Yorkshire! :d

[EDIT: The book I found (post #16) says that he came from England at age 5 and that he was born in 1820, so please disregard the "1809" date of birth in my graphic below. It should be ca. 1819 or 1820.]

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KNduZkb9lc4/XgT2KuJE39I/AAAAAAAAINc/MrApsutbEogfUxJ1PZRPvHSLiISSRtEtQCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/looking%2Bfor%2BHenry%2BNaylor.jpg

I want to let other voices speak because I have altogether too much interest in having him turn up in the parish next to my own family. It would be nice but I don't want to stitch together a fairy tale.

Working backwards in time on this tree, we have:

William Michael Naylor
born 23 Oct 1939 Burlington, Chittenden, Vermont, USA
died 22 Sep 2006 Newfane, Niagara, New York, USA

William John Naylor
born 27 Jul 1904 VT
died 4 Jan 1980 Inpatient, Burlington, Chittenden, Vermont, USA

William Henry Naylor
born 22 Nov 1870 Isle La Motte, Grand Isle, Vermont, USA
died 22 Mar 1944 Isle La Motte, Grand Isle, Vermont, USA

Henry Naylor
born 1809 (??) Yorkshire, England
died 18 Jan 1898 Isle La Motte, Vt

Janet
26-12-19, 18:41
How do I know Henry is from Yorkshire? And more importantly, why 1809? Of course I could be wrong, but I think it's likely he was lying about his age the rest of his life but in front of the immigration judge he probably told the truth for the first time in years because he really wanted his naturalization papers. It certainly is strongly blacked in, over the top of whatever it was he started to say at first.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5scUnu3069Y/XgT6t3QZg1I/AAAAAAAAINo/5MneTrto1YI2ZDPQVL2dBrgjGuTdAkBsQCLcBGAsYHQ/s800/Naturalization%2Bpetition%2Bfragment%2B%2B%2527b%2 B1809%2527.JPG

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/61211/100028070_00124/47298?backurl=https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/165762273/person/432150854255/facts/citation/1162207334307/edit/record

Janet
26-12-19, 18:43
He came first to Canada and married Elizabeth Vaughan, in 1843.
(I thought I had glimpsed him arriving as a sailor or some kind of seagoing apprentice but have not found it again, so not sure where to look for him earlier, whether in Canadian records or on the 1841 in England.)

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1091/d13p_32310840/6268917?backurl=https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/165762273/person/432150854255/facts/citation/1162207349453/edit/record
Name Henry Naylor
Religion Episcopal
Event Type Mariage
Marriage Date 1843
Marriage Place Iberville Québec
Place of Worship or Institution Episcopal Church, Caldwell and Christie
Spouse Elisabeth Vaughan

Janet
26-12-19, 18:44
1851 Census of Canada East, Canada West, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia

Canada East (Quebec) Sherbrooke County Orford

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1061/e093-e002318115/1922336?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdbid%3d1061%26gsln%3dNa%253fl%253f r%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln_x%3d1%26cp%3d0%26hc%3d50%26n ew%3d1%26rank%3d1%26uidh%3d9uh%26redir%3dfalse%26m sT%3d1&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

36 Henry Naylor Male 32 1820 England
37 Elizabeth Naylor Female 38 1814 Canada
38 William H Naylor Male 6 1846 Canada
39 Reuben A Naylor Male 3 1849 Canada
40 Josephus Naylor Male 1 1851 Canada
41 Catharine Rider Female 22 1830 Canada

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1861 Canada census (Canada East - Missisquoi)
Widowed, with William H., Reuben H., and Benjamin Naylor;
Hudsons next door one side and Vaughans next door other side;
Henry is a sailor - where did I see an apprenticeship to ship trade?
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1570/4108794_00342/793940820?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co. uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdbid%3d1570%26gsln%3dNa%253fl%253f r%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln_x%3d1%26cp%3d0%26pcat%3d%26q h%3dKFN7iQsUQ5ksWmzipVds7A%253d%253d%26hc%3d50%26n ew%3d1%26rank%3d1%26uidh%3d9uh%26redir%3dfalse&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

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In 1870 he has shifted across the border ("Nailor" now) and is married to Emily. His son's in-laws, the Bombards, are next door. I can't find the marriage to Emily but on the son William Henry Naylor's marriage, Henry is the father and Emily Budroe is mother (elsewhere spelled Boudreau).
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/7163/4268452_00055/37345513?backurl=https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/165762273/person/432150854255/facts/citation/1162207372873/edit/record

Name Henry Nailor
Age in 1870 51
Birth Year 1819
Birthplace England
Dwelling Number 45
Home in 1870 Isle La Motte Grand Isle Vermont
Race White
Gender Male
Post Office Isle La Motte
Occupation Sailor
Father of Foreign Birth Y
Mother of Foreign Birth Y
Real Estate Value 300
Inferred Spouse Emily Nailor
Inferred Children Franklin Nailor
Household Members 3

Janet
26-12-19, 18:47
1884
Hero, VT
Henry Naylor citizenship
31 August 1884
Note there are 2 pages, 124 and 125 of 233.
Born in 1809 in Yorkshire.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/61211/100028070_00124?pid=47298&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid%3D61211%26h%3D47298%26indiv%3Dtry%26o _vc%3DRecord:OtherRecord%26rhSource%3D9841&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.268122377.667545459.1573335732-286954851.1482773667#?imageId=100028070_00125

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"United States, New England Petitions for Naturalization Index, 1791-1906," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-8H9F-M6?cc=1840474&wc=M6Y6-2M3%3A165643201 : 20 May 2014), Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Vermont N240 (Abate) - N635 (William M.) > image 3801 of 5359; citing NARA microfilm publication M1299 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-8H9F-M6?i=3800&cc=1840474&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AVXRH-8VK

Henry Nayler
United States, New England Petitions for Naturalization Index, 1791-1906

Name:
Henry Nayler
Event Type:
Naturalization
Event Date:
1886
Event Place:
Vermont
Birth Year:
1809
Birthplace:
Yorkshire, England

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EDIT:

Have just found a note to myself that somewhere on these immigration papers it is stated that he has lived in the U.S. for 5 years prior to 31 August 1886, so was here by 1881.

Also there is a cross-out that seems to indicate he did not come before age 18.

Janet
26-12-19, 18:53
Henry died 18 Jan. 1898.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/4661/41269_312889-02989?pid=831994&treeid=165762273&personid=432150854255&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=rAa915&_phstart=successSource

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/22202919

HarrysMum
26-12-19, 21:00
Following in case he’s a rellie, and I can find this again when I have time.

kiterunner
26-12-19, 21:32
I haven't read through the whole thread yet, but I think in the naturalisation papers, they originally started to write the current year which was 1884, which should have been written a few lines further down, and by the time they had written "eighty" they realised they were writing it in the wrong place and wrote Nine over it.

Merry
26-12-19, 21:39
I would worry that the official had just made a mistake with a subtraction to get to 1809 and the year of birth should read 1819 :eek:

Janet
26-12-19, 22:00
Well, Merry, you could be right! The search broadens... :rolleyes:

Thanks for that, Kite. I think I can now see what you've seen underneath there.

Libby, you have Naylors too? This is our neighbor family, the one you've probably heard me call "No. 3 Son".

Phoenix
27-12-19, 10:06
Merry is probably right: it seems unusual that a man admits to being considerably younger than his wife if he is actually older than she is.

Janet
27-12-19, 10:37
Right, thanks Phoenix. Maybe I should ask an admin to change my thread title to read Henry Naylor/Nayler/Nailor b Yorkshire ca 1809-1819.

Janet
27-12-19, 11:15
I will go so far as to say that there is one Henry Naylor who, I believe, is not my man.

There is an Ancestry tree by one of the family known to us. If you search Public Member Trees for William Michael Naylor with death in 2006 it should come right up. Looking at Henry Naylor on there, they have chosen an 1819 baptism and parents for him.
West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 for Henry Naylor
Thornhill, St Michael and All Angels 1819
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2252/32355_248875-01009/9047522

The same is listed under England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975:
Name Henry Naylor
Gender Male
Baptism Date 10 Jan 1819
Baptism Place Thornhill, York, England
Father Robert Naylor
Mother Mary Naylor
FHL Film Number 1542081 Reference IDp 114, #908

But this man never leaves home. He is present on all the England censuses through 1881, as a joiner/house carpenter which was also his father's occupation, and then dies in 1885.
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=9840&h=4539282&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=9841

Name: Henry Naylor
Gender: Male
Age: 66
Birth Date: 1819
Death Place: Mirfield, Yorkshire, England
Burial Date: 2 Oct 1885
Burial Place: Mirfield, York, England
Father: Robert Naylor
FHL Film Number: 1542072
Reference ID: D1-27, P211, #1686

I think we can safely disregard this one.

Merry
27-12-19, 12:32
Any Hen* or H*r*y or Hy Na?l?r born in Yorkshire at the right time, but still in the UK in 1851 can't be yours, so you need to work through seeing what baptism records you can eliminate, probably via birth registrations of their children to pick up the mmn and then the correct marriage, with (hopefully!) father's name recorded.

If your man was really born in 1819 or thereabouts and therefore it will be other men born around that date that you need to eliminate, they are pretty unlikely to have married before 1837, so that's a plus!

Janet
27-12-19, 16:32
Thanks for that little ray of sunshine, Merry. :)

I can see where my weekend is heading. :d

Janet
30-12-19, 00:05
Aha. In the online Internet Archive I have found a book History, Town of Isle La Motte, Vermont : An Account of the Discovery, Settlement, and Interesting and Remarkable Events in which it is stated that "Henry Naylor (1820-1898) came from England when he was five years old."

The book was published by A.L. Stratton, North Hero, VT, in 1984. Online access is restricted but I currently have it borrowed from Internet Archive for another 13 days.

I have been working through as comprehensive a list of Henry Naylor/Naylers b 1804-1824 in Yorkshire as I could come up with, using FamSearch, Ancestry and FMP. Of course I started from the 1804 end, didn't I. Merry, I may need you to patiently explain once more the part about "birth registrations of their children to pick up the mmn and then the correct marriage, with (hopefully!) father's name recorded". Oh, never mind, I get it. Or do I? :o This will tell me what children to look for on the census? And what else? :confused:

Merry
30-12-19, 08:00
Re eliminating baptisms….

Look for men named Henry Naylor and variants, of the right age, born in Yorkshire on the UK 1851 census. You need to establish the correct baptism for each of these men so you have a shorter list of baptisms that could belong to your man.

So, if the 1851 men are married with children the steps would be... Look up the birth registrations for the children on the GRO site or FMP to pick up the mmn for those children. Try and locate the marriage of the parents using this information. If you can find an image for the marriage then you should have the father's details for the groom. The combined info of father's details plus birthplace from the 1851 census might enable you to tick off one entry from your list of possible baptisms. If any of the men are born in small villages you may be able to spot the baptism without all these steps, but when I looked very briefly, most seemed to come from cities.

Of course in an ideal world you would start with, say, 10 baptisms and tick off nine, leaving one that must be yours, but that Arthur Conan Doyle thing about eliminating the impossible won't necessarily lead you straight to the right answer in this case, but it might be the quickest way of saving you from spending a long time looking at definite wrong entries!

Having said that (:D) there is a tree on Ancestry that is a complete muddle but does have a Henry Naylor with the right death included. They seem to be saying this is his baptism (transcript from Ancestry):

Henry Naylor bap 13 Aug 1820 Rawmarsh ,York, England parents James, Elizth

Here's the tree. For some reason it doesn't have the right parents, though they have the baptism!

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/159674789/person/212088065205/facts

Normally I would probably completely ignore the above as the tree is such a muddle, however, I did look at it a bit yesterday, hoping to return triumphant, but as I couldn't find anything helpful I didn't post about it then. It has to be said that the information I couldn't find did make me wonder if that baptism is the right one! Of course I should have said all this whilst I had the info in front of me, but here's what I remember.....

There were only a small number of children baptised with parents James and Elizabeth Naylor in Rawmarsh. I found a death for James Naylor soon after these baptisms (maybe around 1824ish? I think he was born in about 1790 and they were married 1814/15 and her maiden name was Frost). Within a couple of years (1826?) of James' death there was a marriage for widow Elizabeth Naylor to widower John Clair in Rawmarsh. After that I couldn't find anything on these people. Now you say it is believed Henry was around the age of 5 when he left the UK, when I'd been thinking he left by himself as a young man. I had been quite surprised I couldn't find anything more about this man's mother or step-father in the UK, but now I'm wondering if they all went to Canada? I never got around to looking for Henry's siblings here - I wonder if they show up on your side of the Atlantic?

Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself - when I look at that tree I get a headache!

Merry
30-12-19, 09:46
Having said all the above, there are many trees which have:

Elizabeth Frost
Birth 1799 Rotherham Yorkshire England
Death 04/1861
Spouse James Naylor (1793-1872)

and masses of children including the Rawmarsh ones.

but Elizabeth marrying aged about 15 is younger than most, so I wouldn't like to say these trees are def correct (though worth an investigation). They may have copied from each other. In 1841 they have no living children born after 1837 unfortunately. (to establish the mmn)

Janet
30-12-19, 16:07
Wow, Merry, thank you!

Got a lot to work through there, which I will have to come back to later today.

Sorry about your headache. :( Having peeked at that tree I've got one now too. :d

Merry
30-12-19, 17:37
:d:d:d

Janet
31-12-19, 06:17
Don't know where this leads me, but here is the birth of Henry's daughter Julia Margaret. Wonder if anyone can make out the birthplace in Canada of her mother.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DZB3-ZYL?i=3556&cc=1784223

Merry
31-12-19, 07:00
lol Not really! I tried looking at lists of places in Canada, through all those beginning with S and looking at those ending in Y, but nothing matched well. Did they have any other children with a similar record?

Merry
31-12-19, 07:05
The spelling of Canada is dubious, so that's depressing.

kiterunner
31-12-19, 08:44
lol Not really! I tried looking at lists of places in Canada, through all those beginning with S and looking at those ending in Y, but nothing matched well. Did they have any other children with a similar record?

The records that I can find for other children just say "Canada".

Merry
31-12-19, 09:09
Unhelpful!

Pity they didn't ask where in England whilst they were asking where in Canada.

Merry
31-12-19, 09:18
You can probably forget my idea of widow Naylor marring John Clair and sailing off into the sunset with all their children, as this looks like John and Elizabeth with a son from their marriage in 1841 (bottom left):

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/8978/WRYHO107_1327_1328-0397/12660238?backurl=https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/9545298/person/-783262884/facts

So, if it was this Elizabeth's son who went to Canada aged 5, he went without his mother, which seems way too unlikely, so, though I can't find Elizabeth's son, Henry Naylor, in England, I expect that's where he remained.

kiterunner
31-12-19, 09:34
Don't know where this leads me, but here is the birth of Henry's daughter Julia Margaret. Wonder if anyone can make out the birthplace in Canada of her mother.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DZB3-ZYL?i=3556&cc=1784223

Could it be Lacady, an attempt at L'Acadie, as there is a municipality called L'Acadie within St Jean sur Richelieu? Just looking at that area because there is a likely Emilie Boudreau from there.

Merry
31-12-19, 11:12
I'd say that's promising!

Janet
31-12-19, 14:02
Kite, you are brilliant as usual. I think that must be it.

Going back to working through the baptisms, the list I had made myself was this. The only one I was certain of eliminating was the one baptized in Thornhill. Still plugging away.

Kirk Bramwith
Henry Nayler, b 14 Jan 1818, bap 23 May 1817, Robert Nayler and Elizabeth

Halifax
Henry Naylor, b 15 Nov 1818, bap 15 Nov 1818, Mary Naylor

Thornhill
Henry Naylor (or Thomas Henry--Thornhill St Michael and All Angels), bap 10 Jan 1819, Robert Naylor (Joiner) and Mary
It's not him - he is in England in 1851, in Mirfield.

Halifax
Henry Carrack Naylor, bap 11 April 1819

Halifax
Thos. Henry Naylor, bap. 11 April 1819, Barthw. Naylor and Sarah

Rawmarsh
Henry Naylor, bap. 13 Aug 1820, James Naylor and Elizabeth

Janet
31-12-19, 14:14
I was getting tied in knots because it seemed as if there were, on the censuses, more Henry Na?l?rs of the right age born Yks than I had found in the baptisms. Anyway here's me talking to myself.

On the 1841:

Sheffield
William Naylor 45 Tailor
Hannah Naylor 45
George Naylor 20 Tailor
Henry Naylor 20 Tailor
Sarah Naylor 14
Eliza Naylor 11
Martha Naylor 6
All born Yorkshire

Almondbury
Henry Naylor 20 Butcher * ??? Is that 20 or 40 for his age?
Harriot Naylor 30
Hannah Turner 19
Sarah Hebblethwait 16
Alll born Yorkshire

Mirfield
Robt Naylor 50 Joiner
Mary Naylor 55
Herry Naylor 20
Caroline Naylor 15
Thomas Naylor 15
Robert Naylor 10
All born Yorkshire

The 20-year-old in Mirfield I believe is the same Henry Naylor b Thornhill who also appears on the 1851. He married Ellen France in 1844. Did not go to Canada.

Janet
31-12-19, 14:29
On the 1851:

Here's the same guy that can't be mine. This eliminates Henry Naylor (or Thomas Henry--Thornhill St Michael and All Angels), bap 10 Jan 1819, parents Robert Naylor (Joiner) and Mary

b Thornhill residing Mirfield (Dewsbury RD)
Henry Naylor 31 House Carpenter & Beer House
Ellen Naylor 25 Keeper
Caroline Naylor 5 mmn France
Sarah A Naylor 4 mmn France
Hanah Naylor 2 mmn France
Mary Naylor 1 mmn France
Emma France 10

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b Sheffield residing Sheffield
Henry Naylor 29 Taylor
Mary A Naylor 28
John Naylor 2 mmn Valentine

First name(s) Henry
Last name Naylor
Age 27
Birth year 1821
Residence West Bar Green
Marriage date 15 Jan 1848
Marriage place Sheffield, Cathedral Church of St Peter & St Paul
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann
Spouse's last name Valentine
Spouse's age 22
Spouse's residence West bar Green
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Naylor
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Valentine

I did not find the baptism for Henry b 1821.

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b Sheffield residing Sheffield
Joseph Naylor 60 Farmer of 30 acres employs 1 lad b Cawthorne
Mary Naylor 58 b Northallerton
Henry T Naylor 29 Saw maker b Sheffield
Eliza Naylor 6 mmn Schorah
Henry T Naylor 2 mmn Dronfield
Harriet Addey 15

I also saw a Mary Ellen Naylor with mmn Schorah J qtr 1846 in Sheffield but have not tracked down where she went. But back to Henry:

Henry T might be Henry Thomas? Thomas Naylor marries Charlotte Dronfield.
First name(s) Thomas
Last name Naylor
Residence Sheffield
Marriage date 09 Aug 1832
Marriage place Sheffield, Cathedral Church of St Peter & St Paul
Spouse's first name(s) Charlotte
Spouse's last name Dronfield
Spouse's residence Sheffield

I don't quite get the unfolding of events. This marriage was in 1832.

And then I wasn't sure what baptism I'm looking for: Henry? Henry Thomas? Thomas?

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b York residing Birmingham
Henry M Naylor 32 Dealer in Carpet Bags Etc. b York
Sarah Naylor 27 mmn Meeks
Mary Naylor 7 mmn Meeks
Elizth Naylor 4 mmn Meeks
Fredk Naylor 2 mmn Meeks
Martin Naylor 2 Mo mmn Meeks
Sarah Toms Wring 29
Jane Taylor 12

Also found a William George Naylor with mmn Meeks S qtr in Birmingham. Don't know what happened to him either. But I can Henry M Naylor marrying Sarah Meeks.

First name(s) Henry Moore
Last name Naylor
Marriage date 30 Nov 1841
Marriage place Birmingham
Spouse's first name(s) Sarah
Spouse's last name Meeks
County Warwickshire

The parish register was a bit of an eye full. Lol.
Henry Moore Naylor, full age, bachelor, Haberdasher, his father William Naylor, Wesleyan minister.
Sarah Meeks, under age, spinster, her father George Meeks, Hardware Dealer.
By license. Both sign. Witnesses Rev. Dixon Naylor, Samuel Liptrot Findley.
Same day, next marriage, John Liptrott Findley marries Frances Meeks (under age), her father also George Meeks and George is also a witness.

Janet
31-12-19, 20:32
I keep finding stuff on the Internet Archive and getting distracted.

There is this one with a lot of detail on the Vaughan/Vaughn family as well as the Naylors. Give it a minute to come into focus. The text is on the right-hand page.
https://archive.org/details/hcbhawley_i/page/38

In case anyone curious enough to read this is not familiar with Internet Archive, you can search more inside this publication if desired by going to the search field with the magnifying-glass icon on the black bar. (Not the field at the very top right corner. That will take you to other books.)

There is also History, town of Isle La Motte, Vermont : an account of the discovery, settlement, and interesting and remarkable events by Stratton, Allen L, and I think you may be able to see this two-page spread on the Naylor family without actually "borrowing"* the book, which you have to do if you want to peruse the whole volume. (*In the case of this book. Many others are free for the reading.)
https://archive.org/details/historytownofisl00stra/page/374

This latter book's index includes these names under "Naylor":

Benjamin
Cornelius R.
David, Rev. (1813-1903)
Elizabeth (1876- )
Elizabeth (Vaughn)
Emily (Bourdeau) (1840-1906)
Ernest A.
Franklin (ca. 1868-died young)
George (ca. 1873-1908)
Geraldine, Mrs.
Harold A.
Harry (sic)
Hattie Emily (Jarvis)
Hawley
Henry (1820-1898)
Herbert
Julia (ca. 1878- )
Mary (Botsford)
Mary (ca. 1875- )
Milla/Millie (LaBombard) (1873-1948)
Rachel (Fitzgerald)
William J.
William Henry (1870-1944)

It seems as if most of these Naylors are from the generation(s) following Henry. I was hoping to see if some other Naylors accompanied him across the Atlantic, but have not identified any yet.

Note that Boudreau and Bourdeau are variants of the same surname, also Vaughan and Vaughn.

Janet
12-01-20, 05:48
Going to put this up here in case it becomes of interest. The time frame more or less fits if Henry Naylor was born in 1820, and if these people did in fact emigrate around this time. (The Isle La Motte history book in post #32 says he was born in 1820 and came over when he was five.)

Canada, Immigration and Settlement Correspondence and Lists, 1817-1896 for Joshua Naylor
1817-1851 (Volume 014) North America Offices; Settlers, 1826
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/3709/41411_307307-00207/21601?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return#?imageId=41411_307307-00207

To the Right Honourable Earl Bathurst Secr[etary] of State for Colonial Affairs. The Humble Petition of the undersigned Workmen of the Township of Rastrick in the Parish of Halifax and County of York

Sheweth

That your Petitioners have been in more Prosperous times Engaged in the Fancy Cloth T[rade] which has for Several months past been nearly annihilated. The Consequence is that your Petitione[rs] are Reduced to the most Extreme Wretchedness ever known to the oldest Man living and not having the most distant hopes of ever again being able to Earn their Bread in their usual line of Business. Your Petitioners therefore humb[ly] Conceive that his Majesty’s Colonies in North America would open a larger Field for the Beneficie[nt] Employment of their Industry. Provided they had facilities afforded them of arriving on the Spot your Petitioners therefore Earnestly and most humbly Pray that your Lordship will be Pleased to Grant your humble Petitioners Land in some his Majesty’s Colonies of North America Proportioned to their means of Industry and also Provide your Petitione[rs] means of Conveyance to the Place—and your Petitioners [???] in duty Bound will ever Pray———

[There follows a list of 31 signers, by my count, including one Joshua Naylor.]

Rastrick near Huddersfield
10 Nov. 1826

P.S. Luke Noble of Rastrick will thankfully Receive any answer which your Lordship may be pleased to Transmit.
I couldn’t get that one word toward the end where I put question marks. The bits in square brackets are where I am guessing the ends of words that have faded into nothingness at the ends of lines.

In between trying to get ready for a fairly long trip and other pressing affairs I have been diligently wrestling with my list of Naylor baptisms in Yorkshire for this period to try to eliminate them but mostly have felt as if I’m chasing my own tail. I have to let it go right now, but will try to come back to it in a few weeks’ time. Thank you Kite and Merry, and all others who chimed in, for your attention.

Merry
12-01-20, 07:51
If this man didn't actually leave, then he could be Joshua Naylor who was buried 6 Mar 1855 at Rastrick aged 63. On the 1851 census he is a widower and a hand loom weaver (woollen), b Heckmondwike, Yorkshire (3.6 miles away) and in 1841 a fancy weaver, in both cases living in Rastrick. In both instances he is living with his unmarried nephew Jubal (?) Naylor, who marries in 1855 using the name Jubal Naylor Holroyd (no father recorded), is on the 1861 census in that name and transcribed as Jabal W Oldroyd in 1871 (Ancestry)!

If there are any unusual names on that list of signatures, perhaps you should check to see if there's any evidence of them leaving, or staying in, the UK.

I know you are often interested in snippets of information only perhaps loosely connected to the search, so...

The Brighouse and Rastrick Brass Band (formed 1881) reached number 2 in the UK singles chart in Nov 1977 with The Floral Dance and remained at that position for several weeks, whilst at number 1 was Mull of Kintyre by Wings (Paul McCartney's band). The B&R Brass Band kept the Bee Gees, with How Deep is Your Love, from going higher than number 3. In the UK at least, I should think all these tracks are well known by people of a certain age, even if they are not music lovers!

Janet
12-01-20, 16:38
I love it! :D

There's a lot to dig into when I return from afar, provided I've not been conked by a falling coconut in the meantime. :rolleyes:

Thanks, Merry.