Mary Porrit(t) (father's father's father's mother)

[ElizabethHerts]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Mary Porritt, then Mary Alexander

Date and place of birth
c. 1818
see baptism

Names of parents
Samuel Porritt and Esther? (nee Hindle)
Samuel was a millwright
IGI marriage - 27th Feb 1816 Church Lancashire

Date and place of baptism
Baptisms: 14 Jun 1818 St James, Church Kirk, Lancashire, England
Mary Porrit - Daughter of Samuel Porrit & Esther
Abode: Tinker
Occupation: Engineer
Ann Porrit was christened the same day - twins?

Details of marriage
To Charles Alexander, widower
5 August 1850
St Mary's Bury Lancashire
(Mary was the second of four wives)

Occupation(s) - if any

Addresses where they lived - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found her on.

1841 Census
Not found

1851 Census
Class HO107; Piece 2213; Folio 231; Page 25
Albert Street Heap Heywood
Charles Alexander Alexander Head Mar 30 Carpenter and Joiner Berkshire Lambourne
Mary Wife Mar 33 Lancashire Foxhill Bank
M H Daur 4 Lancashire Heywood

M H is Martha Hannah, daughter of Charles and Lavinia (first wife)

Date, place and cause of death
Mary died 11 September 1855
at Bridge Street Heywood
Wife of Charles Alexander Joiner
Mary died of phthisis pulmonatis certified
Jane Leach was present at death
Her age was given as 37..Date and place of burial / cremation.

Details of will / administration of their estate
Very unlikely there was one

Burial
Not known

Memorial inscription - if any
I don't know where she was buried.

In the five years that Mary was married to Charles Alexander, she had two sons:
Joseph born 10 May 1851 (my great-grandfather)
Samuel born 4 December 1853

[ElizabethHerts]

If anyone could work their magic and try to find the following in 1841 I'd be cockahoop! :d

Mary Porrit(t) as on this thread born Foxhill Bank/Church c 1818
Ann Porrit(t) her sister, possibly twin, ditto

Samuel Porrit(t) their father Millwright He married again after Esther's death.
Alice Porrit(t) Samuel's second wife. Married 7 March 1831 Manchester Cathedral

Margaret Porritt Son of Samuel and Alice Christened 28 APR 1833 Cathedral, Manchester
Samuel Porrit(t) Son of Samuel and Alice Christened 30 JUL 1837 Cathedral, Manchester
Alice Porrit(t) Son of Samuel and Alice Christened 30 JUL 1837 Cathedral, Manchester

These possible children of Samuel and Alice (surname spelt differently)
Elizabeth PERRITT christened 10 JUL 1831 Cathedral, Manchester
Joseph PORRATT christened 13 DEC 1835 Cathedral, Manchester

They can't all have died! (I've got FMP and I'm finding it hard to find any PORRITTS)!

[ElizabethHerts]

BTW, I found these from Lancashre OPC:

Baptism: 30 Jul 1837 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Samuel Porritt - Son of Samuel Porritt & Alice
Abode: Manchr
Occupation: Millwright
Baptised by: W. W. Johnson
Register: Baptisms 1837, Page 608, Entry 4859
Source: FHL 1545611

Baptism: 30 Jul 1837 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Alice Porritt - Daughter of Samuel Porritt & Alice
Abode: Manchr
Occupation: Millwright
Baptised by: R.C. Clifton Clerk in Orders
Register: Baptisms 1837, Page 608, Entry 4860
Source: FHL 1545611

Just to show his occupation

[Merry]

They can't all have died!

No, but some seem to have done:

Deaths Sep 1837
Porritt Alice Manchester 20 368

Deaths Jun 1838
Porritt Samuel Manchester 20 396

Probably both children? Have you found the parents on a census anytime?

[ElizabethHerts]

Merrry, it's so odd! Thanks for the deaths - I had noted them, but as both parents have the same names it's not clear if they are the children or not. I think I shall have to order some certificates.

There are a few Porritts in Lancashire, but most of them seem to be missing from the censuses.

I can't find Mary Porritt on the 1841 census, and she must have been alive! Also I believe her sister Ann to be alive as I have a probable marriage for her somewhere.

I have been using FMP and they are usually quite good. I don't know if Ancestry are any better.

Charles Alexander and Mary Porritt's marriage certificate gives her father as "Samuel Porritt Mill Wright". It doesn't indicate whether he is alive or dead. Charles' father was dead but it does not say so.

From the occupation it looks pretty certain I have the correct Samuel Porritt.

(If I don't reply for a while I'm not ignoring you although my light will be on! I am on a wedding organisation mission (for my younger daughter) and I'm going to a bridal shop to look at bridesmaids' dresses and make an appointment for the bridesmaids.)

[Merry]

It's probably of no consequence, but I was imagining Samuel Porritt, millwright as doing what my millwrights did in Somerset - repairing flour mills etc. However, if you have a millwright in manchester, might he be doing things with milling equipment in cotton mills and therefore his occ in any other record (I was just looking at Historical Directories and the online newspapers) might appear to be different to what might be expected?

Another thing, whether those deaths are for the children or parents, or one of each, the other two people should also appear somewhere on the BMDs shouldn't they? (unless a death wasn't registered, which I think did happen sometimes with children in particular.)

[ElizabethHerts]

Merry, you would expect to find SOME of them, wouldn't you!

The trouble with the name PORRITT is that it is ripe for lots of permutations - Perritt, Parrot, etc, depending on how it is heard/pronounced!

I found the Manchester Cathedral transcriptions on Lancashre OPCs very tantalising - just one year! The others would help! I feel a visit coming on....

[kiterunner]

I think there's a one-name study called P*rr*t which advertises in the family history magazines, isn't there?

[ElizabethHerts]

I think there's a one-name study called P*rr*t which advertises in the family history magazines, isn't there?

Oh, I haven't seen that, Kiterunner. I shall have a nosey!