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Margaret in Burton
02-12-19, 15:17
I don't know how to put images on here.

can I email the cert to someone please?

It's the groom's occupation ( I know what i think it says)

also the Groom's father's occupation.

kiterunner
02-12-19, 15:20
You can email it to me, Marg.

Margaret in Burton
02-12-19, 15:24
Thanks Kate

kiterunner
02-12-19, 15:34
The groom's is Barkeeper (seagoing).

Groom's father - I'm not sure. Ship's something! Will post it on here so other's can have a try while I think about it.

The first letter of the second word more or less matches the G of Grove.

Margaret in Burton
02-12-19, 15:40
Yes I thought it was barkeeper seagoing. It’s Liverpool so perhaps on one of the big ships.

The other one-

Ships greaser I thought maybe

kiterunner
02-12-19, 15:44
From the other writing on the cert, it looks like "Gre...er" and the letter before "er" does look similar to some of the s's. So I guess it must be Ship's Greaser as that does seem to have been an occupation at the time, although the letter in the middle doesn't look like the other a's. Unless someone else can come up with something?

Margaret in Burton
02-12-19, 15:45
Maybe it is greaser

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oiler_(occupation)

Merry
02-12-19, 16:06
Is there anywhere else it might be written?

Margaret in Burton
02-12-19, 16:11
Is there anywhere else it might be written?

I haven’t looked for the father on a census yet but am struggling with the groom. I reckon he’s at sea on all census. Marriage cert only arrived this afternoon so I haven’t had much chance.

Margaret in Burton
02-12-19, 16:25
Here they are in 1901. The Sweeney family. Father Patrick and son Edward

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/7814/LANRG13_3461_3463-0464?pid=20690575&treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true#?_phcmd=u('https:%2F%2Fwww.ancestry.co .uk%2Fsearch%2Fcategories%2F1901uki%2F%3Fname%3Ded ward_sweeney%26birth%3D1895%26birth_x%3D1-0-0_1-0%26father%3Dpatrick_sweeney%26father_x%3D1_1%26na me_x%3D1_1%26successSource%3DSearch%26queryId%3DHF 9DCB%2B%2B5v8SzowDf4Rgig%3D%3D','successSource')&imageId=LANRG13_3461_3463-0464

Margaret in Burton
02-12-19, 16:29
and here in 1911. Doesn't help much with the Ship's Greaser (or not)

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2352/rg14_22430_0597_03?pid=26161519&treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMX3847&_phstart=successSource

Olde Crone
02-12-19, 17:02
Could it be ship's qmaster (quartermaster).

OC

Margaret in Burton
02-12-19, 17:23
Could it be ship's qmaster (quartermaster).

OC

Don’t think so OC as he’s a marine fireman in 1901 and a labourer in the docks in 1911

Merry
03-12-19, 08:34
I have to say, it does look like something-master to me. Of course whatever it says, it doesn't have to be true!!

Janet
03-12-19, 12:42
Line 50, is that your man, Marg? Clearly stamped "greaser" in all caps, first column of the right-hand page.
Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919 (https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2364/32168_100000_1264-00620/1994885?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return)

Margaret in Burton
03-12-19, 14:42
Line 50, is that your man, Marg? Clearly stamped "greaser" in all caps, first column of the right-hand page.
Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919 (https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2364/32168_100000_1264-00620/1994885?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return)

Thank you very much Janet.


It could be him, age is a bit out but I'll have a search through those lists

Margaret in Burton
03-12-19, 16:20
Found him on two other ships too

Janet
03-12-19, 16:39
A Google search for maritime occupations brought me to that database on Ancestry, which I had not known existed.

Margaret in Burton
03-12-19, 17:31
A Google search for maritime occupations brought me to that database on Ancestry, which I had not known existed.

Neither did I