Sarah Harrison

[Margaret in Burton]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as

Sarah Harrison

Date and place of birth

About 1833 in Bradley, Derbyshire – not to be confused with Bradley, Staffordshire which is close by.

Names of parents

Thomas Harrison (http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=7000) and Mary Clark (http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=10343)


Date and place of baptism - if applicable

Unknown

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any

No marriages have been found. The Ashbourne registrar has also checked. I have checked the PR’s as well.

Relationships were:
Anthony Roe with who she had an illegitimate child in 1861. He is named in the PR of the baptism of that child. Sarah is on the 1861 census unmarried with the child and living with her mother.

William Yates (http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2936). Sarah takes his name on census and children’s birth certs but no marriage has been found. First child of that relationship was born in 1865.

Occupation(s) - if any

Charwoman

Military service - if any

None

Addresses where they lived - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on.

1841 – Bradley, Derbyshire with her widowed mother
1851 - unsure
1861 – Hollington, Derbyshire with her widowed mother and illegitimate child
1871 – Hollington, Derbyshire with William Yates and listed as his wife
1881 – Hollington, Derbyshire with 3 children listed as married. William is elsewhere on census night

Date, place and cause of death

8 March 1887 – Hollington, Derbyshire – cause- Pneumonia for two weeks, informant on death cert William Yates her *husband*.

Date and place of burial / cremation.

11 Mar 1887 at St Chad’s, Longton, Derbyshire

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable

Unknown

Memorial inscription - if any

Unknown

Link to son: Thomas Henry Yates (http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2729)

[kiterunner]

Hmmm, there is an extracted IGI entry for a Sarah Harrison baptism at Marston Montgomery, 7 Apr 1833, parents Thomas and Mary, but there are some submitted entries giving the mother's maiden names as Land. And anyway, Marston Montgomery isn't very near Bradley, though not very far either.

[Margaret in Burton]

She was always very consistant about being born in Bradley on all census. Bradley does have it's own church so why go anywhere else. Maybe she wasn't baptised.
I have baptisms for her 4 older siblings at All Saints, Bradley taken from the actual parish register. Nothing for Sarah and her younger brother William born in 1835.

[Margaret in Burton]

I see that no-one has managed to find that elusive marriage to William Yates yet. :D:D:D

I will be totally shocked if anyone finds one

Oh, I forgot to say that William seemed to have been baptised as Joseph but always known as William. :confused::confused::confused:

[Merry]

Maybe William Yates married someone else after 1861 and before he and Sarah got together?

[Margaret in Burton]

What do you mean Merry?

Are you suggesting that William wasn't free to marry Sarah? If so, I hadn't considered that.

[Margaret in Burton]

Just checked FreeBMD for marriages of William Yates between 1861 and 1866 in Ashbourne.

It only comes up with one. Dec qtr 1865. Possible females are:

Mahala Frost
Mary Frost
Emma Gratton
Ann Roper

That's a bit close to the birth of John William Yates who supposedly was the eldest son of William and Sarah.
He was registered Dec qtr 1865

John William was baptised as the child of William and Sarah at St Chad's, Longford on 29th July 1966

[Merry]

I was just thinking that the most usual reason for not marrying was probably that one or other (or both!) party wasn't free to marry. Obviously it could be either of them, but if it was Sarah there might be a chance she would admit to the previous surname on one of her childrens birth certs. I suppose it would be fairly impossible to even consider looking for such a marriage for sarah as there would be so many, but vaguely possible to do so for William Yates (as you have done, but not really found anything). What about looking for Joseph Yates?

[Merry]

Which birth certs do you have for Sarah and Wm's children?

[Margaret in Burton]

Which birth certs do you have for Sarah and Wm's children?

I have Thomas Henry Yates, my great grandfather, it says parents William Yates and Sarah formerly Harrison.
I also have the birth cert of Sarah's illegitimate daughter with Anthony Roe, Mary.
Anthony wasn't named on the birth cert but was named on the baptism record.