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Lindsay
12-09-19, 17:54
Edward Newman was admitted to the Freedom of the City of London in 1846, saying that he carried on the business of contractor at 5 Sun Square, Sun Street, Bishopsgate - on the borders with Shoreditch, roughly where Liverpool Street station is now.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2052/32512_a064540-00825?pid=797049&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3D5841680839%26_phstart%3DsuccessSo urce%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D2052%2 6gsfn%3Dedward%26gsln%3Dnewman%26gsln_x%3D1%26cp%3 D0%26msydy%3D1846%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26uidh%3D58 4%26redir%3Dfalse%26msT%3D1%26gss%3Dangs-d%26pcat%3D36%26fh%3D0%26h%3D797049%26recoff%3D%26 ml_rpos%3D1&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=5841680839&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

I hoped to find an entry for the Sun Square address in a Directory but so far haven't had any luck - can anyone find any reference to it? (Although he was in the Company of Loriners, he was actually a dust contractor so it was probably a yard of some sort)

kiterunner
12-09-19, 18:47
This is Sun Street in 1845 (continued on next page) but I don't see Edward Newman or Sun Square:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/61265/47056_302022005560_0552-00181/7965048?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdbid%3d61265%26cp%3d0%26gskw%3dbis hopsgate%26gskw_x%3d1%26msrdy%3d1845%26msrdy_x%3d1 %26hc%3d20%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26uidh%3dvm5%26red ir%3dfalse&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults#?imageId=47056_26302 1009499_1496-00497

In the trades section, "dust contractors" says "see rubbish carters", so I looked at rubbish carters but he wasn't listed.

kiterunner
12-09-19, 18:55
And this is Sun Street in 1850 but I don't see him there either:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/61265/47056_302022005560_0545-00760/8605908?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdbid%3d61265%26cp%3d0%26gskw%3dbis hopsgate%26gskw_x%3d1%26msrdy%3d1850%26msrdy_x%3d1 %26hc%3d20%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26uidh%3dvm5%26red ir%3dfalse&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults#?imageId=47056_26302 1009500_2485-00529

Not listed under Rubbish Carters either.

I don't think ancestry has any in between 1845 and 1850 but will check.

kiterunner
12-09-19, 19:04
Okay, they have 1848 in a separate database. He isn't in the alphabetical section:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/3145/GB0109-00000?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return#?imageId=GB0109-00427

But they don't seem to have the complete directory including street listings.

Lindsay
12-09-19, 19:27
Thanks for looking, Kite. At least I know I haven't missed anything obvious.

I'm pretty sure he's my man, even though the Freedom papers have a signature while he signed X on his marriage and Will.