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Phoenix
03-05-19, 22:20
Edward Boutle marries Ann Cooper spinster in 1812: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1623/31281_a101348-00135?pid=14782&treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Leb6831&_phstart=successSource



Edward Cooper Boutle is bp 15 November 1812

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1624/31281_a100920-00129?pid=5022080&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid%3D1624%26h%3D5022080%26indiv%3Dtry%26 o_vc%3DRecord:OtherRecord%26rhSource%3D9841&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true



Joseph Riddell Boutle is b 1815 bp 1817 https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1558/31280_199064-00095/4674211?backurl=https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/102421508/person/200016302299/facts/citation/700076593658/edit/record



Edward dies in 1832 - bitten by a pet fox who turned rabid and a witness at the inquest is James Riddell, brother in law. So.... two families? Two wives? Ann a widow and not a spinster as stated? Or did Edward's mother remarry, to a Riddell? All suggestions gratefully received

Phoenix
03-05-19, 22:31
Note that both boys marry at St Dunstans and all saints, Stepney

kiterunner
03-05-19, 22:43
Which Edward died in 1832, please, Phoenix?

kiterunner
03-05-19, 22:50
There is a James Riddel marriage to an Ann Boutel 19 Jul 1812 St Antholin Budge Row, London, according to FamilySearch. So if it is Edward sr who died in 1832, Ann Boutel could be his sister.

Edit - have found what I assume is his burial and he was 46 so it must be Edward sr.

Phoenix
03-05-19, 23:00
That makes much more sense, Kite. With both surnames being spelled any nuber of ways, Ancestry threw up nothing.

Now, if Ann makes it to 1851, I might find out where she was born. Off hunting....

Phoenix
03-05-19, 23:22
Oh, wow.

1851 has
Mary Boutel 48 washerwoman b Shoreditch and
Ann Riddel widow mother 73 pauper b Saffron Walden!

Phoenix
04-05-19, 07:18
Adding for subsequent reference, Ann Boutle nee Cooper's family in 1841:
Ann Boutte Female 50 1791 -
Elizabeth Boutte Female 25 1816 -
Eliza Boutte Female 3 1838 Middlesex, England
Edward Boutte Male 25 1816 Middlesex, England
William Boutte Male 20 1821 Middlesex, England
Robert Boutte Male 15 1826 Middlesex, England
Charles Boutte Male 14 1827 Middlesex, England