View Full Version : Can anyone find this marriage please.
I’m looking for the wife of Howard Haylock.
Her first name is Elizabeth and the eldest child I can find of this couple was baptised in Westminster, London in 1759. There could be older children I haven’t found yet.
The youngest daughter I’ve found is Carolina, b 1766. She is my gggggrandmother and transported to Australia 1788 often under the name of Laycock.
Thank you.
One record has Westminster in London, another in Middlesex. I never know the difference.
kiterunner
08-01-19, 09:50
Westminster used to be in the county of Middlesex, but then London became a county of its own.
At work at the moment, but FMP has Westminster records, mostly not on Ancestry.
15 July 1758 Thos (or Howard)Haylock & Eliz Wood by licence St Pauls Covent Garden (from Phillimore Marriages)
Oakum Picker
08-01-19, 11:22
Phillimore has a Thomas (or Howard) HAYLOCK of St Paul's, Covent Garden marrying Elizabeth WOOD by Licence 15 Jul 1758.
Oakum Picker
08-01-19, 11:23
As always - too slow!!!
Oakum Picker
08-01-19, 11:29
Marriage took place at Hampton.
Oakum Picker
08-01-19, 11:35
Here it is on Ancestry under Thomas although he signs 'Howard'.
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1623/31280_199386-00367/4701283?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dlmamarriages%26gsfn%3dthomas% 26gsln%3dhaylock%26gsfn_x%3dNN%26gsln_x%3dNN%26cp% 3d11%26qh%3dDYJDGK6XPA005Pj9IHCe6A%253d%253d%26hc% 3d50%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26redir%3dfalse%26uidh%3 der6&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
Marriage took place at Hampton.
...and on the marriage entry, though his name is written Thomas, he signed Howard!
lol My turn to be too slow!
Oakum Picker
08-01-19, 11:49
Well that's a first for me.
Why do my lot do this to me?
Thank you all. As I said above his daughter Carolina was a convict on the first fleet to Australia. I’d love to know about the rest of her family as those places and now a marriage by licence seem to indicate some form of wealth...........or were those places not always as ‘nice’ as Phil Spencer tells me now on TV? Lol
St Pauls Covent Garden..... have you ever seen My Fair Lady, with Eliza selling her flowers?
Westminster Abbey was jostled by slum tenements.
You also find that being born into a comfortable lifestyle is no guarantee of its continuance. Most people would rent their homes and premises. The death of a father, or a fire which destroys a business could bring a family right down. If the networks were in place, they might recover, but if the man had no head for business, or drank the profits, everything could collapse.
True.........and I wonder why Thomas/Howard used two names. Seems at first thought he was hiding something, but you’d think the minister would have noticed. Typical of my lot. Always hiding something.........lol
England, Boyd's Marriage Indexes, 1538-1850
William Hailock
Marriage year 1720
Spouse's first name(s) Dorothy
Spouse's last name Howard
Place Over
County Cambridgeshire
These look like Howard's parents. He was bp 1736 at West Wratting s/o Wlliam and Dorothy
One record has Westminster in London, another in Middlesex. I never know the difference.
To be honest, I'm not sure the up-overs do either. I know Kate gave an explanation but I'm not sure the public all knew. Or they are like me and I have only just started called Myer Myer, rather than the Grace Bros they were when I was a child. I'd still call it Grace Bros if I didn't have children and have to explain why the sign doesn't match what I call it.
True.........and I wonder why Thomas/Howard used two names. Seems at first thought he was hiding something, but you’d think the minister would have noticed. Typical of my lot. Always hiding something.........lol
Maybe Howard is the middle name.
True Toni......lol
Phoenix, are those records from FMP?
I haven’t renewed my Ancestry so might go there for a while if they might help.
If you google:
Haylock "West Wratting"
you get lots of interesting stuff.
Also, it seems there is a Grade II listed house which is supposed to be called Haylocks in West Wratting. When I looked at Google street view I could only see something appropriate called 'The Old Hall' (61 High St) roughly in the spot shown on the map on the British listed buildings website. (might well not be the right place though!)
True Toni......lol
Phoenix, are those records from FMP?
I haven’t renewed my Ancestry so might go there for a while if they might help.
Yes, but it's transcripts only, no images. There are a lot of PCC wills on Ancestry, but for a later date. Various lawsuits on TNA's Discovery, but that's indexes only. Cambridge wills indexes may be on FMP, I can't remember, but know I've seen them somewhere.
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