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Phoenix
06-04-18, 15:46
This is the marriage of Henry Trusler to Mary Turner nee Townsend in Salisbury in 1877:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/61189/45582_263021009496_2016-00139/1649082?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dhQY11973%26_phstart%3dsuc cessSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3dwiltshiremarri age%26so%3d2%26pcat%3dBMD_MARRIAGE%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsln%3dtru s*%26gsln_x%3dNN%26MSAV%3d2%26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d9vh&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

They both declare themselves to be widowed.
Mary's previous relationship was with Charles Turner and this is their family in 1861:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/8767/WILRG9_1315_1320-0346/18429495?backurl=https%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co. uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dhQY11999%26_phstart%3dsuc cessSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3duki1861%26so%3 d2%26pcat%3d35%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dmary%26gsfn_x%3d1%26msypn__ftp%3dStudley%25 2c%2bWiltshire%252c%2bEngland%26msypn%3d88355%26ms ypn_x%3d1%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d4%2 6catbucket%3dr%26MSAV%3d2%26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d9vh&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
still together in 1871:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/7619/WILRG10_1953_1957-0415/4313210?backurl=https%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dhQY12032%26_phstart%3dsuc cessSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3duki1871%26so%3 d2%26pcat%3d35%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsln%3dturner%26gsln_x%3dNN%26msypn__ftp%3dSalisbu ry%252c%2bWiltshire%252c%2bEngland%26msypn%3d88340 %26msypn_x%3d1%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp% 3d4%26catbucket%3dr%26MSAV%3d2%26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d 9vh&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

Mary's background is fairly straightforward - though she seems never to have married Charles. Her children seem to have been left behind when her husband died, and her step children had little love for her either, judging by newspaper reports.

I'm more interested in Henry's first "wife" Flora Spicer.

Phoenix
06-04-18, 15:52
Henry didn't seem to marry Flora.

This is the only confirmed sighting of her:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/7619/WILRG10_1953_1957-0467/4314118?backurl=https%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1871%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_r_db %26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3dhenr y%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dtrus*er%26gsln_x%3dNN%26MS AV%3d2%26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d9vh&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

Mary A Trusler, b Maidstone 1834

before she dies and is buried in Salisbury in 1877.

Can anyone find Flora in 1861 and earlier? Or her daughter Celia/Cecil/Cecilia after 1881?

Phoenix
06-04-18, 15:56
This is Flora's burial: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/61190/45582_263021009496_2018-00148/731157?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk% 2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dhQY12051%26_phstart%3dsuc cessSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3dwiltshiredeath s%26so%3d2%26pcat%3d34%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dflora%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dtrus*r%26gsln_x %3dNN%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d4%26catbucket%3dr%26MSAV%3 d2%26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d9vh&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

According to the burial she was born 1841!

I think it pure coincidence that the next burial is her mother-in-law - fairly sure Maria died of old age.

kiterunner
06-04-18, 17:33
There is a Charles Turner / Mary Townsend marriage Apr-Jun 1855 Bath Register Office or Approved Premises, which fits nicely with the birth of Mary Jane early 1856.

kiterunner
06-04-18, 19:22
Do we also need to find out what happened to Alfred Joseph Trusler born 1872, or have you already traced him, Phoenix?

Phoenix
09-04-18, 13:33
Oh, thank you for that marriage, Kite!

Although he describes himself as Irish in Canadian records, I'm fairly sure that Alfred/Joseph Trusler emigrated - possibly with some aid, as he says he went in 1885 - to Ontario.

His mother and step-mother were in and out of court, as was his brother Henry, but it sounds as if he were capable of better.

His grandfather, by the way, tried to ignore his wife as she consistently overspent.

kiterunner
09-04-18, 14:00
Yes, it's definitely the same Alfred Joseph who went to Canada, as his death registration gives his parents' names as Henry Trussler and Mary Spicer, and says he was born in England. The census entries say he arrived in Canada in 1885, but his death record says 56 years in Canada, which would mean he arrived there around 1889 as he died 7 Oct 1945.