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Joan of Archives
01-01-10, 17:42
Class: RG9; Piece: 318; Folio: 109; Page: 67; GSU roll: 542613.

1861 census David ROSE b approx 1805-1816 in Scotland, I can't read where though! I also can't find any marriage for him to Matilda either, she was born in Bermondsey in 1816 approx. Can anyone help please?

:o

kiterunner
01-01-10, 17:46
Well, his age is definitely given as 56 which would mean he was born 1804-5, but I haven't figured out the placename yet!

kiterunner
01-01-10, 17:51
I'm wondering whether the first bit is an attempt at Morayshire, but if so then the nearest parish name I can find to the second bit is Rafford. The first letter looks like an N rather than an R, though, but I suppose the enumerator could have copied it out wrong.

Joan of Archives
01-01-10, 17:56
Kite here they are in 1851:
Class: HO107; Piece: 1561; Folio: 138; Page: 6; GSU roll: 174794.

He seems to have lost a few years off his age by then lol! Does that help at all?

kiterunner
01-01-10, 18:01
Ancestry isn't loading for me on the laptop at the moment, Joan, so I can't look at that page at the moment, but I have managed to find a baptism on the IGI for a David Rose, born 22 June 1806 and baptised 28 June 1806 at Rafford, parents David Rose and Christian Macintosh. Did your David have a daughter called Christian at all?

Joan of Archives
01-01-10, 18:32
Hi Kite

Not that I can find at the moment, sorry :(

I wonder if that one could be him then?

kiterunner
01-01-10, 18:35
Maybe, but it would seem more likely if he named a daughter Christian!

Joan of Archives
01-01-10, 18:42
Kite his place of birth on the 1851 looks more like Burnsford rather than Rafford?

What do you think?

kiterunner
01-01-10, 19:05
Looks like N Burnsford, but at least the county is definitely given as Morayshire on that one. From what I can make out from Google, Burnsford is near (or in?) Deskford, which isn't very near Rafford. I'll have another look...

kiterunner
01-01-10, 19:15
I can't work out what parish Burnsford was in around 1810, might have to return to it later, sorry.

HarrysMum
01-01-10, 19:28
IGI has a David Rose born 22 June 1806 baptised 28 June 1806 Rafford Moray.

Father David Rose and Christian Macintosh.

Christian is not an uncommon female name in Scotland.

HarrysMum
01-01-10, 19:29
Sorry Kite....................I didn't see your posting.

samesizedfeet
01-01-10, 19:42
there are four Rose children born to David and Christian between 1800 and 1820:

David 1806
John 1810
Charles 1813
Isobel 1816

I have a few ScotlandsPeople credits I have no use for so shout if you need any lookups etc - otherwise they'll run out on me again

kiterunner
01-01-10, 22:35
I don't think that is the right baptism for David, though, because Burnsford isn't very near Rafford. I still haven't worked out which parish Burnsford was in! I found something that said Rathven parish, but Rathven parish is in Banffshire?

kiterunner
01-01-10, 22:50
Looks as though Burnsford may have been on the boundary of the two counties? I can't see a baptism in Rathven though.

Joan of Archives
01-01-10, 22:58
Ok Kite thanks.

Thanks Zoe I don't want to waste your kind offer unless there is a baptism that jumps out as being the right one for him re Burnsford.
:)

Joan of Archives
06-01-10, 21:21
IGI has a David Rose born 22 June 1806 baptised 28 June 1806 Rafford Moray.

Father David Rose and Christian Macintosh.

Christian is not an uncommon female name in Scotland.

I can eliminate him from my enquiries as I contacted someone on GR who has him in his tree but he is not the right one so it looks like it's back to the drawing board :(