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Ada GG Tizzard (https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/6598/DORRG12_1664_1668-0145?pid=15633378&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db%3Duki1891%26indiv%3Dtry%26h%3D15633378% 26ftm%3D1&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true)
Could someone please tell me where she was born?
FMP says Wales, Ancestry Condicote Malta. I believe FMP but can't read the bit after Wales.
PS: If you can work out what happens to her from here I would be extremely grateful
Family Search has Blend Moor.
I'm no good at deciphering.
There's an Elmore in Gloucestershire.
Can't see a birth registration for Ada GG Tizzard though.
There's an Ada G Matthews in Dec qtr in Gloucs
Ada Georgina Moaby Dec 1884 in Northleach, Gloucs.
How about an Ada Gibbs, possibly born Brynmawr
Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
GIBBS Ada Crickhowell 11b 117
Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%)
Foster Ellen Bridport 5a 585
Tizzard William John Bridport 5a 585
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2162/32435_239501-00605?pid=2836081&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DhQY8996%26_phstart%3DsuccessSourc e%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26gss%3Dangs-g%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26gsfn%3Dada%26gsfn_x%3D1%2 6gsln%3Dtizzard%26gsln_x%3D1%26msbdy%3D1884%26msbp n__ftp%3DWales%26msbpn%3D5250%26msbpn_PInfo%3D3-%257C0%257C0%257C3257%257C5250%257C0%257C0%257C0%2 57C0%257C0%257C0%257C0%257C%26cpxt%3D1%26cp%3D4%26 catbucket%3Dr%26MSAV%3D1%26uidh%3D9vh%26pcat%3DROO T_CATEGORY%26h%3D2836081%26dbid%3D2162%26indiv%3D1 %26ml_rpos%3D17&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=hQY8996&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true
mmn on birth cert is Foster. So... Ellen marries Tizzard, lives with Gibbs, has child bp before dumping her.....?
Thanks for looking JBee, but I think Phoenix has it.
Mum is living with Ada in the 1891, she married Samuel Coombs in 1889.
Tizzard is an awful name, ancestry had her as Lizzard, but I've seen the z's transcribed as g's.
It's a sad story mum, Ellen married William Tizzard in Jan 1881 and he was dead by 6 March 1881. He was in the navy and the ship sank. Ada isn't his though. I assume there is a Mr Gibbs, maybe even a George Gibbs somewhere in the picture. Ellen was living with William's family in Dorset on the 1881 census but had clearly moved to Wales by 1884 to have Ada but was back to marry Samuel Coombs in 1889. That marriage didn't last long as she was a widow in 1891 (from Tizzard or Coombs I don't know).
I've just realised she is living with Sarah and Eva Gibbs in 1891, potential relatives of the mysterious Gibbs? I need to follow up on these Gibbs women, see if it leads to anything. Tomorrow, as it's late now.
Thanks for the help ladies. x
Ada in 1901!
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/7814/DORRG13_1978_1979-0587/11134457?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dhQY9036%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3duki1901%26so%3d 2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dada%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dstrong%26gsln_x%3 d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d4%26catbucket%3dr%26MSAV%3d2% 26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d9vh&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
Ada married Harold Strong and the parish register says her father was Charles Gibbs auctioneer, deceased.
These people are doing my head in.
Harold Percy Strong is married in 1911 but not to Ada. Ada does not appear to have died in any surname I can think of before 1911. However an Ada Strong married Alfred Herbert C Diment in 1907. That couple are hiding in 1911 and that Ada dies in 1913 in Hertfordshire. She is about the right age and has the right middle name. I need to find her on the 1911 to see where she was born. :(
Tell me again I love this hobby as hitting my head on a brick wall seems appealing right now.
In 1911 Harold Strong says he has been married for ten years (so presumably to Ada). The other person in the house is bookkeeper Ruth Gibson, who is 22 and says she has been married two years and no children (obviously Harold and Ruth might have been in a relationship, but as I don't know her maiden name I can't look for children between them!).
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2352/rg14_28755_0079_03/31559277?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dOuS3069%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3d1911england%26s o%3d2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dharold%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dstrong%26gsln_ x%3dNP%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3dr%26MSAV %3d2%26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d672&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
Alfred Herbert Cecil Diment was b 1877 in Ealing (Brentford District). Here he is on 1911 using his last middle name and with his wife, calling herself by her middle name, Gertrude. Trouble is, Gertrude says she was aged 29 and born in Kentish Town, not Wales!
There is a birth reg in 1882 Q2 in Pancras District (covers Kentish Town) for an Ada Gertrude Strong, so it looks like this Ada is a red herring.
This was the Ada who then died in 1913 and in 1914 widower Alfred married Helen Rebecca Bowerman and she is mentioned in his probate record in 1942, so that family is nice and tidy!
Back to Harold Percy Strong......I found him in 1939 and he says then he is a widower (and a tattoo artist, I suppose perhaps because he was previously a sailor?!).
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=TNA%2FR39%2F3324%2F3324D%2F015%2F20
In the same household is another Harold Strong born 01 May 1922. His birth reg says mmn Blandford. In the 1939 household there is a "housekeeper" named Elsie Blandford (transcribed as Blanchford by FMP) b 1888, single. The register says she will later become Mrs Strong.
There is a GRO index entry showing Harold P Strong married Elsie I S Blandford in 1941 in Ripon District.
I was wondering whether when Harold says he is a widower in 1939 whether that was Ada he was referring to and whether she was actually dead or just what he assumed/hoped?!! Why hadn't he already married Elsie as they had a child together? Had the previous wife (Ada?) only just passed away?
For a minute I got very confused when I noticed there is another marriage for a Harold P Strong in 1922 (the year your chap had a child with Elsie), but I'm hoping this is just the marriage of a different Harold P Strong b in 1896, so I'm ignoring that one for the time being! lol
There's a marriage for an Ada G Strong in 1921 but from the 1939 register that Ada was b 1898.
None of the other Ada G Strong entries look very promising. Perhaps she lived with someone? If we knew her dob we could try the 1939 register I suppose.
There are a small number of Strong/Gibbs children born between 1901 and 1911 but they seem to belong to a different couple married in Essex (all Orsett district).
Thank you Merry.
I totally misread the burial in 1913. I will swear it said Georgina not Gertrude.
I had seen the 1911 census for Harold Strong but I took it to mean he was in a relationship with the housekeeper. Reading it your way Ada may have died after 1911 but it there is nothing obvious.
I think I found Ada as Tizzard in 1911. Surname had been hopelessly mangled by employer - looked like Furber on transcript, but age and birth place correct.
Am at work, so I'll let the rest of you find it.
Ada in 1911, servant to Upfield Green, in Willesden:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbc%2f1911%2frg14%2f07021%2f0435&parentid=gbc%2f1911%2frg14%2f07021%2f0435%2f3&highlights=%22%22
Thanks Phoenix. Place of birth isn't right, Welsh but the wrong part. She also claims to be single but if you are avoiding an unwanted husband that would make sense.
Looking at FMP I don't think that is my Ada. There is a girl on the 1901 census who matches the 1911 census. Turns out the employer has no idea of Wales, nor spelling. The girl does come from the same area as my Ada though.
Damn, forget the above: red herring!
Damn, forget the above: red herring!
lol I just worked that out. Good to have things to look at though.
Do you know what happened to Ellen? I can't find her after 1891.
I can't find Ellen either, I've tried all names and variations I can think of. I had hoped to find Ada in the hope they were together or at least near each other.
She was only 30 in 1891 and had had 3 men in the last decade, all deceased. It is likely she remarried, or went to jail.
That marriage didn't last long as she was a widow in 1891 (from Tizzard or Coombs I don't know).
Surely from Samuel Coombs? He appears on every census up to 1881 (b abt 1850 at Allington Dorset). Could this be him, having gone to Wales for some reason?
Deaths Mar 1891
Coombs Samuel 41 Pontypridd 11a 324
Merry I've seen that death and think it is him. I do wonder why he went to Wales. Ada was born there as well.
I just don't know if she stayed with him long after the marriage that is all. She may have left him, or vice versa, and she just reverted to a widow as William Tizzard was dead.
I also don't think there is a connection with the Gibbs women she was living with in 1891, at least not with Charles. It looks like it is a coincidence.
I also don't think there is a connection with the Gibbs women she was living with in 1891, at least not with Charles. It looks like it is a coincidence.
At first glance I would agree there isn't an obvious connection between the various Gibbs. Charles's mother from Yarmouth on the Isle of Wight and Sarah's husband from Beaminster in Dorset. I note that despite Charles's mother saying she was unmarried on the census, on his marriage cert to Catherine Larcombe Charles says his father was Charles Gibbs, master mariner!
Having said that, don't you think it odd that Charles Gibbs has a sister called Eva, aged 8 months in 1861 b Poole, (reg 1860 Q3 as illegitimate) and there is also Eva Gibbs (the one living with Ellen etc in 1891) dau of Thomas and Sarah b abt 1860 in Beaminster - no reg to be found (EDIT see further down). Eva was a fairly unusual name at that time.
I've just realised that the apparent married couple Thomas and Sarah Gibbs who lived in Beaminster and then in Bridport were not actually married and that's why I didn't find a birth reg for their Eva. She was registered as Eva Gibbs Snell in 1860 Q3 in Beaminster district (so the same Q as the other Eva was reg in Poole)
Here is her bap along with some older siblings (from Dorset OPC, but they are on Ancestry too once I put the names in the right boxes!):
1860; 29th July; Emmeline Gibbs; Sarah; SNELL; ;
1860; 29th July; Thomas Gibbs; Sarah; SNELL; ;
1860; 29th July; Eva Gibbs; Sarah; SNELL; ;
So, that was all over complicated!
So, two Eva's born in different places within a few weeks - big co-incidence or connected?!!!
When Charles Gibbs married Catherine Larcombe he gave his middle name as Richard, but on his birth reg he is Charles Robertson Gibbs. Maybe Robertson was the name of his father?
I can't find Charles of Catherine after 1881 nor and children reg for them between 1876 (when they married) and 1891 when I lost interest!
I can't find Charles of Catherine after 1881 nor and children reg for them between 1876 (when they married) and 1891 when I lost interest!
I think this is Catherine Larcombe/Gibbs:
Marriages Mar 1889
Gibbs Catherine Poplar 1c 814
Roberts Henry Poplar 1c 814
And here in 1891:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/6598/LNDRG12_334_337-0288/10999659?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dOuS3422%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3duki1891%26so%3d 2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dhenry%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3droberts%26gsln_ x%3d1%26mssng%3dcath*%26mssng_x%3d1%26gskw%3dpopla r%26gskw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3d rstp%26MSAV%3d2%26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d672&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
and 1901:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/7814/LNDRG13_356_357-0378?pid=20969540&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DOuS3416%26_phstart%3DsuccessSourc e%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3Duki1901%26g ss%3Dangs-d%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26msT%3D1%26MS_AdvCB%3D1%26 gsfn%3Dhenry%26gsfn_x%3D1%26gsln%3Droberts%26gsln_ x%3D1%26mssng%3Dcath*%26mssng_x%3D1%26gskw%3Dpopla r%26gskw_x%3D1%26cpxt%3D1%26cp%3D11%26catbucket%3D rstp%26MSAV%3D2%26MSV%3D1%26uidh%3D672%26pcat%3D35 %26fh%3D0%26h%3D20969540%26recoff%3D%26ml_rpos%3D1&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=OuS3416&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true
I can't find anything more about that marriage though. My assumption is based on her age and place of birth on the 1891/01 census.
My assumption is based on her age and place of birth on the 1891/01 census.
lol Now I've turned the page for the 1891 census I see Catherine's mother, Eliz Larcombe, is living with them, so sure it's her. Goodness knows what happened to Charles Gibbs the auctioneer.
Goodness knows what happened to Charles Gibbs the auctioneer.
Charles Gibbs, auctioneer, Ada's father was deceased by 1900, when Ada got married.
Thanks for all this. I have to say I'm a little confused so will have to go back over it all. I'm not sure where you got Charles's mother from if we don't know who Charles is, or are you think Sarah's son Charles is the one? I've forgotten what I have looked at, I'll look again.
I'm not sure where you got Charles's mother from if we don't know who Charles is
Oh, I must not have realised Charles hadn't been identified! I think because you said you thought Charles the auctioneer wasn't related to the Gibbs that Ellen was living with in 1891 you must have already found him!
No, I don't think he was Sarah (Snell's) son. I think he is the son of Sarah Gibbs (unmarried) and was born in Poole Dorset in 1857:
Births Jun 1857
Gibbs Charles Robertson Poole 5a 282
Married as:
Marriages Sep 1876
Gibbs Charles Richard Poole 5a 506
Larcombe Catherine Poole 5a 506
and was an auctioneer in 1881:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/7572/DORRG11_2092_2096-0775/3681757?backurl=https%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dOuS3513%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3duki1881%26so%3d 2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dcharles%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dgibbs%26gsln_ x%3d1%26gskw%3dauctioneer%26gskw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1% 26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp%26MSAV%3d2%26MSV%3d1% 26uidh%3d672&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
No children born to Catherine Gibbs/Larcombe in either this marriage or her next one to Henry Roberts. Don't know what happened to Charles, though there are a couple of deaths with no middle name that are out of area. He might not have died, but I don't see him on the census in 1891/01.
Though the two Gibbs families didn't seem to originate from the same area, both families had a child named Eva Gibbs born in Q3 1860 which I thought was surprising.
There is this Charles Gibbs death in Abergavenny. His age tallies with the Poole Charles Gibbs:
Deaths Jun 1888 (>99%)
GIBBS Charles 33 Abergavenny 11a 43
That Charles's death notice gives an address of Hill Street, Blaenavon:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0002079%2f18880622%2f087
I note too that Brynmawr and Blaeavon are less than five miles apart.
Merry and Phoenix you are wonderful. Merry I hadn't found him, I got his details from Ada's marriage so I didn't know if they were accurate or made up so she had some details.
I'd traced the Gibbs family Ellen was living with and decided they weren't related to the mysterious Charles, at least not closely related.
I don't think I looked at the other Sarah and I certainly didn't find a Charles that was an auctioneer.
Charles must have left Catharine for Ellen and they went to Wales. When he died Ellen returned and married Samuel and Catherine then remarried as well.
I would really like to think Ellen married a fourth time and had a long and happy marriage but I don't think so.
Here's Ellen in 1911:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2352/rg14_12277_0395_03/44975876?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dOuS3582%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3d1911england%26s o%3d2%26pcat%3d35%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dellen%26gsfn_x%3d1%26msbdy%3d1860%26msbdy_x %3d1%26msbdp%3d2%26gskw%3dsomerset%2520*minster%26 gskw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp %26MSAV%3d2%26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d672&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
Marriages Dec 1897
Coombes Ellen Poole 5a 655
WHITTINGHAM William Poole 5a 655
If you look at the 1901 page already posted for Ada and Harold Strong (post #7), Ellen and William Whittingham are listed as the following household. I found Ellen in 1911 first though, so that was a nice surprise. Ellen's place of birth is completely wrong in 1901!
William Whittingham is in the Poole Workhouse in 1911.
Likely deaths:
Deaths Mar 1913
WHITTINGHAM Ellen 51 Poole 5a 359
Deaths Mar 1915
Whittingham William 65 Poole 5a 436
Ellen was at Salisbury St in 1911:
Western Gazette 21 July 1905
ACCIDENT AT THE SOUTH-WESTERN POTTERY.- Mr. William Whittingham, aged 54 years, living at Salisbury-street, Poole, was admitted to the Cornelia Hospital on Monday suffering from a rather severe wound on the top of the head, caused by a fall at the South-Western Pottery whilst engaged in draining a kiln.
Western Gazette 25 August 1905
IMPRISONMENT FOR ASSAULT.- Ellen Whittingham, of Salisbury-street, was summoned by Harriet Payne, a neighbour, for assault, and there was a cross-summons.- It appeared the women were wrangling, and exchanged very uncomplimentary remarks. Payne declared Whittingham hit her across the head with a poker twice, inflicting a severe blow. A witness stated he saw Mrs. Payne strike at Mrs. Whittingham with a shoe, but whether she hit her or not he couldn't say, and Mrs. Whittingham picking up a poker swung it round and struck Payne across the head.-P.S. Sprackling stated he happened to be passing the parties houses and heard them quarrelling. Whittingham was drunk, and if she had been in the street probably she would have had to appear at the Court on a charge of drunkenness.-The case against Payne was dismissed, and Whittingham was sentenced to 14 days' hard labour, as the Bench considered the assault committed by her a most serious one, indeed it might have ended far more seriously.
There is also a long article about an assault committed upon an Ellen Coombes of Old Orchard in Poole reported in the Western Gazette 20 January 1893. I think this could well be your Ellen, though they don't report much to help confirm that. There don't seem to be any other women called Ellen Coomb(e)s in Poole in 1891. The article is here on FMP:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000406%2f18930120%2f047
I think the victim in the 1893 assault is your Ellen as a witness is her sister-in-law, Alice Foster. I presume she s the wife of a brother of Ellen's?
Well, he's a flax dresser and she a flax mill hand, so it sounds like the right Ellen.
Good point Phoenix! I don't think I'd actually taken in Ellen's occupation :o
I think this is Catherine Larcombe/Gibbs:
Marriages Mar 1889
Gibbs Catherine Poplar 1c 814
Roberts Henry Poplar 1c 814
And here in 1891:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/6598/LNDRG12_334_337-0288/10999659?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dOuS3422%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3duki1891%26so%3d 2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dhenry%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3droberts%26gsln_ x%3d1%26mssng%3dcath*%26mssng_x%3d1%26gskw%3dpopla r%26gskw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3d rstp%26MSAV%3d2%26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d672&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
and 1901:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/7814/LNDRG13_356_357-0378?pid=20969540&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DOuS3416%26_phstart%3DsuccessSourc e%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3Duki1901%26g ss%3Dangs-d%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26msT%3D1%26MS_AdvCB%3D1%26 gsfn%3Dhenry%26gsfn_x%3D1%26gsln%3Droberts%26gsln_ x%3D1%26mssng%3Dcath*%26mssng_x%3D1%26gskw%3Dpopla r%26gskw_x%3D1%26cpxt%3D1%26cp%3D11%26catbucket%3D rstp%26MSAV%3D2%26MSV%3D1%26uidh%3D672%26pcat%3D35 %26fh%3D0%26h%3D20969540%26recoff%3D%26ml_rpos%3D1&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=OuS3416&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true
I can't find anything more about that marriage though. My assumption is based on her age and place of birth on the 1891/01 census.
If you look on the next page for 1891, her Mum - a Larcombe - is in the same household.
Blast - Merry has already spotted this!
omg This is what James Hockey looked like: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2382/32439_b079071-00020/65859?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2 fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dhQY9184%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3ddorchesterpriso nrec%26so%3d2%26pcat%3d36%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3djames%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dhockey%26gsln_x %3dNN%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d4%26catbucket%3dr%26MSAV%3 d2%26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d9vh&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
omg This is what James Hockey looked like: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2382/32439_b079071-00020/65859?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2 fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dhQY9184%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3ddorchesterpriso nrec%26so%3d2%26pcat%3d36%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3djames%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dhockey%26gsln_x %3dNN%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d4%26catbucket%3dr%26MSAV%3 d2%26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d9vh&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
Oooh, his ears look like they've gone through a few fights.
Poor Ellen, I don't think she had a happy life. James Hockey sounds like such a lovely man, I have no idea why she wouldn't marry him. :rolleyes:
I'm hoping her last marriage was happy, although a man with a head injury might have been hard to live with.
Alice Foster has 2 possible husbands: John and George. I haven't looked into them fully but will have another look.
Ellen's father was alive in 1893, I had thought James Hockey was lying about the letter. Well he may have been but George was still alive.
I wonder what the letter said?
Merry and Phoenix thank you for all your help. I would not have worked all this out on my own.
This marriage seems to fit with a couple called John and Alice J Foster who appear on the following three censuses, but it doesn't really look as if they ever lived in Poole, so I'm not sure. This John was born in Ilminster and is the son of George, so that part fits.
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Oooh, his ears look like they've gone through a few fights.
OH says the ears are called cauliflower ears, you get it from fighting.
That's for the marriage, I'd gotten stuck on Ellen and her sister. There are 3 other siblings that died.
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