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Terri
22-11-17, 17:18
1884 Wandsworth - Thomas Augustin Ryan married either Janet Rosa Cadogan or Jane Lawrie Grey.

But on Census his wife is called Rhoda, born c 1865 Falmouth.

I checked a couple of his sons on the GRO index and their mother's maiden name is Grey, and there is also a Rhoda Grey born 1863 Falmouth.

Their daughter is called Kate Lawrie Ryan and (blow me down with a feather) Rhoda has a sister called Jane Lowry Grey, born 1859 Falmouth. :eek:

???? Totally confused .........!

(I thought maybe Jane had died and Thomas had then shacked up with her sister, but I can't see a death for Jane)

kiterunner
22-11-17, 17:34
He could have shacked up with Rhoda even without Jane dying. I have one like that in my tree.

kiterunner
22-11-17, 17:35
Here are banns for his marriage to Rhoda, 11th, 18th and 25th Dec 1887 at St Paul Hammersmith:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1623/47188_83024005549_1368-00047/21586639?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dlmamarriages%26so%3d2%26pcat% 3d34%26_phsrc%3dCzj9247%26_phstart%3dsuccessSource %26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3dryan%26g sln_x%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gskw%3dtho*%2baug*%26gs kw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp%2 6MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5%26MSV%3d1&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

Hmm, there is a "B" for bachelor next to his name.

Terri
22-11-17, 17:36
That's what I'm thinking. He married Jane .......... and within a few years, he had dumped her, or vice versa and her sister had taken her place.

In which case, I should be able to find Jane.

kiterunner
22-11-17, 17:37
And this is his marriage to Rhoda, 1 Jan 1888 at St Paul Hammersmith:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1623/47188_263021009499_1676-00215/21606822?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dlmamarriages%26so%3d2%26pcat% 3d34%26_phsrc%3dCzj9247%26_phstart%3dsuccessSource %26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3dryan%26g sln_x%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gskw%3dtho*%2baug*%26gs kw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp%2 6MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5%26MSV%3d1&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

He is a widower.

kiterunner
22-11-17, 17:38
FreeBMD has the death of Jane Lawrie Ryan, Apr-Jun 1886 Hackney, age 24.

Terri
22-11-17, 17:39
Here are banns for his marriage to Rhoda, 11th, 18th and 25th Dec 1887 at St Paul Hammersmith:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1623/47188_83024005549_1368-00047/21586639?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dlmamarriages%26so%3d2%26pcat% 3d34%26_phsrc%3dCzj9247%26_phstart%3dsuccessSource %26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3dryan%26g sln_x%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gskw%3dtho*%2baug*%26gs kw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp%2 6MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5%26MSV%3d1&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

Hmm, there is a "B" for bachelor next to his name.

Couldn't find that on the marriage reg list

kiterunner
22-11-17, 17:42
Couldn't find that on the marriage reg list

Comes up on FreeBMD, Jan-Mar 1888. Rhoda's surname is indexed as Gray.

Terri
22-11-17, 17:43
FreeBMD has the death of Jane Lawrie Ryan, Apr-Jun 1886 Hackney, age 24.

Aaaah!! Found it! Birth year down as 1862.

Thank you!!! Thought I'd stumbled on a scandal then. Slightly disappointed ;)

Terri
22-11-17, 17:49
Comes up on FreeBMD, Jan-Mar 1888. Rhoda's surname is indexed as Gray.

Got it now thanks. Thomas isn't named on the listing on Ancestry :rolleyes: