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Joy Dean
17-10-17, 14:42
There is a marriage in ancestry for an Annette O'Conor to a Frank Randolph and I can see it here
https://archive.org/stream/NJ_Marriage_Index_Brides_1904-1909_M-Q/Reclaim_The_Records_-_New_Jersey_Marriage_Index_-_Brides_-_1904-1909_-_M-Q_-#page/n332/mode/1up
- they married in 1909 in New Jersey.

I am trying to prove whether or not she is the same person whose death is registered in 1937 in Lewisham as Annette O'Conor, and who is in the electoral rolls in 1933 and 1935 under that name in Lewisham at the home of her daughter Ethane Rudling. She would have been Annette Dean Smith at birth, whose birth registration was in 1849. In census her name is transcribed as Annette, Annetta, Annie. Her husband Charles Patric O'Conor died in 1901, before the census.

There is a photo in ancestry "Annette O'Conor nee Smith with her second husband Franklin FitzRandolph", and another photo of a church "https://www.ancestry.co.uk/mediaui-viewer/tree/115108647/person/250138903962/media/6bc2cbf8-6f1e-48d1-a1fc-d9c077979eee "St.Luke's Episcopal Church
The message on the back reads : This is the church I was married in on Oct 20 1909, Wednesday, at 8 o/c pm.To Franklin Burt FitzRandolph. He only uses Randolph for shortness."

Ancestry suggests she was in the US 1920 census using the name of Annetta Randolph, age 59, mother-in-law of Lucien Ebert. It can be seen in https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GR6R-NS8?i=3&cc=1488411

It seems in 1910 she was age 52, with Franklin B Randolph https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKBH-TWL

There is an Annette O'Conor, born 1854, occupation matron, married, that travelled from Liverpool to New York in 1906.
There is also an Annetta O'Connor, born 1869, went to New York in 1908.

I cannot find a death registration for Franklin Randolph.

Sorry this is so long! :)

kiterunner
17-10-17, 16:00
If he died in New Jersey then his death reg might not be online.

kiterunner
17-10-17, 16:07
Here is an Annette Randolph, age 66, arriving in the UK May 1924, from the USA, and planning to return to the USA, address in the UK "7 Upper Mill Cottages, Southend, London":
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1518/30807_A000775-00281/28121705?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fgst%3d-6&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

and an Annette Randolph arriving in the UK May 1928, age 69, from the USA and intending to return there, address in the UK "401 Bromley Road, Catford, Southampton":
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1518/30807_A000879-00180/14374989?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fgst%3d-6&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

Merry
17-10-17, 16:22
Southampton

I suppose that should say South London?

Merry
17-10-17, 16:25
That Catford address is where her daughter was in 1931!

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1795/40020_190835-00544/74248536?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dLMAelectoralreg%26gss%3dsfs28 _ms_r_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsf n%3dethen*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dRudling%26gsln_x% 3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26MSV%3d1%26uidh%3d672&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

and both of them in 1933 (that Joy has already seen)

kiterunner
17-10-17, 16:38
Oh good, so that all seems to tie up then.

Joy Dean
17-10-17, 17:53
Fascinating, thank you for all of that. Her age did vary from record to record :)
Yes, Sarf London not Southampton :)
I wonder why she was O'Conor and not Randolph after 1928.

I keep being amazed at the people - I wonder why am I following them sometimes, they are so distantly related! - they turn up in places where I have walked, or near where I have driven.

Joy Dean
17-10-17, 21:35
Find my past has a death record for a Frank Randolph, 31st July 1917, Athens County, Ohio State, in the Ohio, Death Certificate Index.

These details are in
https://www.ohiohistory.org/learn/archives-library/death-records
http://resources.ohiohistory.org/death/