Joy Dean
11-10-17, 19:56
Here is a link to the Thread that I posted recently about Joseph Standfast Smith: http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=25921
From help given to me, census searching, and birth searching for Smith babies with mother's maiden name Sadd, using https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp I have deduced that (unmarried) Joseph Standfast Smith and Caroline Sadd had five children born since civil registration began in 1837:
1 Joseph Abraham Sadd Smith (named after his father / grandfather, great-grandfather and his mother's maiden name) - birth registered September qr. 1839 St George Southwark district. He is with his grandparents (paternal grandmother and step-grandfather) in https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/8978/KENHO107_458_459-0083/2861459?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dCtf3277%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3duki1841%26gss%3 dangs-d%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3djoh n%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3ddean*%26gsln_x%3d1%26msbdy %3d1786%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp%3d5%26MSAV%3d2%26MSV %3d1%26uidh%3dvm5%26gl%3d%26gst%3d%26hc%3d10%26fh% 3d80%26fsk%3dBEDmZmYIgAAjEgA3MpI-61-&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults in 1841, and with his mother and his siblings Elizabeth and Annette in 1851 in Suffolk. He died in 1857.
2 Elizabeth Mary Smith (named after her maternal grandmother and paternal grandmother) - birth registered June qr. 1841 Lambeth district. In 1841 she is referred to as Mary
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1841&indiv=try&h=10201976
and as Elizabeth in 1851 http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=4907430
3 Annette Dean Smith (her middle name being the surname of her step-grandfather) - birth registered December qr. 1849 Woodbridge district. She dropped the middle name at her marriage to Charles Patrick O'Conor March qr. 1869 Greenwich district. She died in 1937.
4 Reuben Henry Smith - birth registered December qr, 1856 Greenwich district. He is with his mother and siblings Annette and Hy (sic) in 1861 http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=uki1861&h=6574016&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&rhSource=8860
He married Louisa Putnam in 1878. NB He was referred to as Henry Edward in 1881. Possible death registration for him in 1925.
5 Edward Henry Smith - birth registered March qr. 1859 Rotherhithe district. I think, as I could not find him in census after 1861, he may have died age 2 in 1861, registered June qr. Greenwich district.
I have not been able to find any record about the second-born child, Elizabeth Mary Smith after 1851. Can anyone help, please? Thank you.
I am still checking death registrations.
From help given to me, census searching, and birth searching for Smith babies with mother's maiden name Sadd, using https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp I have deduced that (unmarried) Joseph Standfast Smith and Caroline Sadd had five children born since civil registration began in 1837:
1 Joseph Abraham Sadd Smith (named after his father / grandfather, great-grandfather and his mother's maiden name) - birth registered September qr. 1839 St George Southwark district. He is with his grandparents (paternal grandmother and step-grandfather) in https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/8978/KENHO107_458_459-0083/2861459?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dCtf3277%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3duki1841%26gss%3 dangs-d%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3djoh n%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3ddean*%26gsln_x%3d1%26msbdy %3d1786%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp%3d5%26MSAV%3d2%26MSV %3d1%26uidh%3dvm5%26gl%3d%26gst%3d%26hc%3d10%26fh% 3d80%26fsk%3dBEDmZmYIgAAjEgA3MpI-61-&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults in 1841, and with his mother and his siblings Elizabeth and Annette in 1851 in Suffolk. He died in 1857.
2 Elizabeth Mary Smith (named after her maternal grandmother and paternal grandmother) - birth registered June qr. 1841 Lambeth district. In 1841 she is referred to as Mary
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1841&indiv=try&h=10201976
and as Elizabeth in 1851 http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=4907430
3 Annette Dean Smith (her middle name being the surname of her step-grandfather) - birth registered December qr. 1849 Woodbridge district. She dropped the middle name at her marriage to Charles Patrick O'Conor March qr. 1869 Greenwich district. She died in 1937.
4 Reuben Henry Smith - birth registered December qr, 1856 Greenwich district. He is with his mother and siblings Annette and Hy (sic) in 1861 http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=uki1861&h=6574016&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&rhSource=8860
He married Louisa Putnam in 1878. NB He was referred to as Henry Edward in 1881. Possible death registration for him in 1925.
5 Edward Henry Smith - birth registered March qr. 1859 Rotherhithe district. I think, as I could not find him in census after 1861, he may have died age 2 in 1861, registered June qr. Greenwich district.
I have not been able to find any record about the second-born child, Elizabeth Mary Smith after 1851. Can anyone help, please? Thank you.
I am still checking death registrations.