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Merry
26-04-17, 11:47
Please can someone help me with finding this place in Yorks? It's in line two of this marriage entry:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/7097/41815_b0152812-00813/244798?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk% 2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dUKQuakerBMDReg%26gss%3dsfs28_ ms_r_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsln %3dwad*ington%26gsln_x%3d1%26msfng%3dben*%26msfng_ x%3d1%26gskw%3dquaker%26gskw_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26MS V%3d1%26uidh%3d672&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

"Benjamin Waddington of ????????? in Yorkshire, Farmer.....".

It doesn't seem difficult to read, but googling is getting me nowhere!
Kit
26-04-17, 11:52
Sweetless??

Never heard of it
ElizabethHerts
26-04-17, 11:55
It looks like "Sweetcliff", but I wonder if it is supposed to be "Swarcliffe"?

Genuki doesn't have anything for Sweetcliff.
kiterunner
26-04-17, 12:08
It says Sweetliff but I haven't figured out where that is yet.
Kit
26-04-17, 12:10
I'm thinking ff should be ss but it is fs that is ss in the old English, isn't it?

I can't see the c for cliff though.
kiterunner
26-04-17, 12:10
Maybe this?
http://placenames.org.uk/browse/mads/epns-deep-35-d-mappedname-000939
kiterunner
26-04-17, 12:10
I'm thinking ff should be ss but it is fs that is ss in the old English, isn't it?

I can't see the c for cliff though.

There is no c but names like that often had variants with and without the c.
ElizabethHerts
26-04-17, 12:12
Aah! I have found Benjamin Waddington of Bracewell:

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbprs%2fyorkshire%2f007587896%2f00517&parentid=gbprs%2fyorkshire%2fmar%2f201002415%2f1&highlights=%22%22

This is a 1733 marriage. There is also a baptism higher up.
ElizabethHerts
26-04-17, 12:13
This is tantalizing, but of no use just yet!

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WQ6wkDw8DnUC&pg=PA781&lpg=PA781&dq=%22Benjamin+Waddington%22+and+%22Bracewell%22&source=bl&ots=VQiA6OkVU6&sig=gLCmG5q4hGp-LcLjPm3cW1cnuBI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_4I2ti8LTAhWKKsAKHWcBApsQ6AEIKDAB#v=on epage&q=%22Benjamin%20Waddington%22%20and%20%22Bracewell %22&f=false
Kit
26-04-17, 12:15
http://www.british-towns.net/

Not that it helps here but I found this website which might be useful when trying to determine other places.
Merry
26-04-17, 12:18
So, if it's trying to say Staincliff(e) then he may well be the Bracewell Waddington. I had already found a bap for their son William somewhere (:o) who might be the groom at the marriage in post 1.

But is it trying to say Staincliff? There don't seem to be any other children of Ben and Mary who were Quakers. :(
Merry
26-04-17, 12:19
Perhaps it's the name of his farm not the name of a parish?
ElizabethHerts
26-04-17, 12:23
There is a will on FMP for someone who lives at "Sweetlives Bracewell"

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=origins%2fyorkprobate%2f4891
Kit
26-04-17, 12:24
It could be Merry, it fits in with Sweetcliffe House in Bracewell Kite found.
Kit
26-04-17, 12:26
There is a will on FMP for someone who lives at "Sweetlives Bracewell"

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=origins%2fyorkprobate%2f4891

It is Sweatlives, which doesn't sound as nice as Sweetlives, unless you can see the original. I can only see a transcript.
kiterunner
26-04-17, 12:29
So, if it's trying to say Staincliff(e) then he may well be the Bracewell Waddington. I had already found a bap for their son William somewhere (:o) who might be the groom at the marriage in post 1.

But is it trying to say Staincliff? There don't seem to be any other children of Ben and Mary who were Quakers. :(

You mean Sweet(c)liff(e), not Staincliff(e), don't you, Merry?
Kit
26-04-17, 12:29
Sweetcliffe House (http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/155615)

It's a nice looking house and the picture says it is a farm.
Merry
26-04-17, 13:41
Yes, sorry Kate.
Mary from Italy
26-04-17, 13:46
This is presumably the William Waddington who married Jane in 1766 (from FS):


William Waddington
England Births and Christenings
Name William Waddington
Gender Male
Christening Date 27 Jan 1739
Christening Place BRACEWELL,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name Benjamn Waddington
Mary from Italy
26-04-17, 13:54
Possibly a relative?

Name William Waddington
Spouse's Name Beatrix Overend
Event Date 12 Apr 1717
Event Place Bradford Quaker Meeting-Nc,Bradford,York,England
Merry
26-04-17, 14:26
This is presumably the William Waddington who married Jane in 1766 (from FS):


William Waddington
England Births and Christenings
Name William Waddington
Gender Male
Christening Date 27 Jan 1739
Christening Place BRACEWELL,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name Benjamn Waddington

Yes, that's the one I saw earlier.

Possibly a relative?

Name William Waddington
Spouse's Name Beatrix Overend
Event Date 12 Apr 1717
Event Place Bradford Quaker Meeting-Nc,Bradford,York,England

Hmmmm, yes, maybe.
Shazza40
10-07-17, 09:41
Hi
I've read this thread with interest as I'm actually researching the couple in that marriage record!
I'm now looking at William Waddington's parents and siblings. From Bishops transcripts of Bracewell parish on FMP:
His parents Benjamin Waddington and Mary Shutt were married in Bracewell, Yorkshire in 1733 and I've found baptisms for 7 children in Bracewell.
http://search.findmypast.com.au/record?id=gbprs%2fyorkshire%2fmar%2f201002415%2f1

I have 2 questions
Is Mary's surname Shutt, Shrett, or something else?
What is the name of the place they are recorded as living at during all the baptisms - Stock, Stocke? and where or what is it? Maybe a farm or hamlet in Bracewell parish?
http://search.findmypast.com.au/record?id=gbprs%2fyorkshire%2fbap%2f203952982

Thanks in advance
Sharon
kiterunner
10-07-17, 09:44
It looks like Shutt to me.

And Stock was a township in Bracewell parish:
http://dp.genuki.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Bracewell

Stocke would just be a variant spelling.
Shazza40
10-07-17, 11:49
Thanks. I've found Stock on a map now. Tiny place.
Sharon