Can't find a marriage

[Margaret in Burton]

1939 Register

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/Record?Id=tna%2Fr39%2F5582%2F5582c%2F023%2F06

Dorothy Gladys Vera Knowles born 16 July 1912 and registered Sep qtr in Kings Norton 6c 700.

1939 register lists two further married names for her. SNIDER and BURGE . The transcription gives a wrong spelling.

I've found her second marriage. Dorothy G V Snider married Alfred J Burge in Dec qtr 1971 in Exmoor, Devon 7c 883.

I cannot find a marriage of Dorothy Knowles to a Mr Snider.

Anyone have better luck than me?

[Merry]

I don't know if this entry is her?

FMP:

GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955) Transcription

First name(s) Dorothy V
Last name Knowles
Marriage year 1947
Marriage place Bielefeld
Country Germany
Spouse's first name(s) -
Spouse's last name -
Page 1537
Line number 120
Record source GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)

There's no entry for the same year for Snider.

[Margaret in Burton]

I don't know if this entry is her?

FMP:

GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955) Transcription

First name(s) Dorothy V
Last name Knowles
Marriage year 1947
Marriage place Bielefeld
Country Germany
Spouse's first name(s) -
Spouse's last name -
Page 1537
Line number 120
Record source GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)

There's no entry for the same year for Snider.


Interesting. She's a mystery woman. I can't find her death either.

[kiterunner]

If you search for someone marrying a Dorothy Knowles in 1947 in Germany in the "British Nationals Armed Forces Marriages 1796-2005" on FMP (for some reason it is called that in the list of datasets), there is a name which comes up in Bielefeld, but not Snider. I won't post the name up just now as I haven't managed to find out whether he is still alive or not. Let me know if you want me to PM you the name.

[Margaret in Burton]

If you search for someone marrying a Dorothy Knowles in 1947 in Germany in the "British Nationals Armed Forces Marriages 1796-2005" on FMP (for some reason it is called that in the list of datasets), there is a name which comes up in Bielefeld, but not Snider. I won't post the name up just now as I haven't managed to find out whether he is still alive or not. Let me know if you want me to PM you the name.

Yes please Kate

[kiterunner]

Dorothy G V Snider is listed on the electoral roll at 260 Haunch Lane, Moseley, in 1945 with a Knowles couple (Midlands Electoral Registers on ancestry), so I think we can forget about that 1947 marriage. Also listed there in 1950 - same address but it is down as King's Norton.

[kiterunner]

Wait - does the 1939 Register show the date that her name was changed to Snider?

[Merry]

Wait - does the 1939 Register show the date that her name was changed to Snider?

lolI thought I asked that as my very first reply on this thread, but where is it???!!!

[kiterunner]

As for her death, the probate site has Dorothy Gladys Vera Burge died 13 Feb 2004, grant and will Bristol 12 Oct 2004.

[Merry]

I just had a look and it's probably Aug 1944.

[Merry]

Her surname is amended to Snider in red. In the address field in red it says

"LONGAZ QAA - 1C" and above that "10 8.44"

[Margaret in Burton]

I'll have another look after I've eaten

[Margaret in Burton]

Dorothy G V Snider is listed on the electoral roll at 260 Haunch Lane, Moseley, in 1945 with a Knowles couple (Midlands Electoral Registers on ancestry), so I think we can forget about that 1947 marriage. Also listed there in 1950 - same address but it is down as King's Norton.

The Knowles couple are her parents.

Thanks for the pm Kate

[Margaret in Burton]

As for her death, the probate site has Dorothy Gladys Vera Burge died 13 Feb 2004, grant and will Bristol 12 Oct 2004.

Kate, can you post a link to the probate site please? I can never find it.

[Margaret in Burton]

Her surname is amended to Snider in red. In the address field in red it says

"LONGAZ QAA - 1C" and above that "10 8.44"

What does that mean? I realise she probably married Mr Snider in 1944 but the rest of it I have no idea.

[kiterunner]

Kate, can you post a link to the probate site please? I can never find it.

https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate

[kiterunner]

What does that mean? I realise she probably married Mr Snider in 1944 but the rest of it I have no idea.

I think 10.8.44 will be the date that her name was updated on the register and the rest (or part of the rest) is to do with area codes.

[Margaret in Burton]

I think 10.8.44 will be the date that her name was updated on the register and the rest (or part of the rest) is to do with area codes.

It would certainly help to know what those area codes mean

[kiterunner]

Managed to get a link to the area codes and QAA = Birmingham:
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts?sourceID=13&utm_source=affiliate&utm_content=LostCousins&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=%20fmp_uk&awc=2114_1486284641_ac89fcbee4c7327371993933894b78 b2&dclid=CI_LiuHJ-NECFdYD0wodVWMCuA

[crawfie]

There is a marriage for Dorothy C Knowles Mar Q 1944 to William J Smith. Doesn't help much, unless Mr Smith went by the name Snider :)

[Margaret in Burton]

There is a marriage for Dorothy C Knowles Mar Q 1944 to William J Smith. Doesn't help much, unless Mr Smith went by the name Snider :)

Thanks Crawfie but that isn't her. She was Dorothy GV Knowles

[Margaret in Burton]

Managed to get a link to the area codes and QAA = Birmingham:
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts?sourceID=13&utm_source=affiliate&utm_content=LostCousins&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=%20fmp_uk&awc=2114_1486284641_ac89fcbee4c7327371993933894b78 b2&dclid=CI_LiuHJ-NECFdYD0wodVWMCuA

Thanks Kate, so the marriage was in Birmingham. Not really surprising as that's where she lived. I wonder what LONGAZ means though.

[kiterunner]

I don't think the "area code" is for where she got married, but for where she was living when she notified the authorities of her change of name.

[Merry]

Has anyone looked on SP?

[Margaret in Burton]

Has anyone looked on SP?
No Merry

[Margaret in Burton]

I googled LONGAZ. Nothing.

[kiterunner]

Has anyone looked on SP?

Yes, I did.

[crawfie]

Thanks Crawfie but that isn't her. She was Dorothy GV Knowles


Oops sorry - typo there it is Dorothy G Knowles who married Mr Smith.

[JayG]

I don't think the "area code" is for where she got married, but for where she was living when she notified the authorities of her change of name.

I think the area code is that of the spouse from what I have worked out for members of my family.

[Merry]

London Gazette 18 July 1944

I, DOROTHY GLADYS VERA KNOWLES of 260 Haunch Lane, Kings Heath, Birmingham hereby give notice that it is my intention to renounce and abandon the surname of Knowles and to assume in lieu thereof the surname of Snider after the expiration of 21 days from the date of publication of this notice. - Dated this 14th day of July 1944.
(161) D.G.V. KNOWLES.

[JayG]

Great find Merry.

So the ref to LONGAZ is London Gazette.

[Merry]

Oh yes, lol!! :d

[Margaret in Burton]

Brilliant.

So she didn't marry a Mr Snider she just took that name?

[Merry]

She may have lived with a Mr Snider, but she didn't marry him.

[Margaret in Burton]

She may have lived with a Mr Snider, but she didn't marry him.



Yes, that's what I meant Merry.