Hannah Newton baptism 1808

[ElizabethHerts]

Hannah Newton was baptised at Old St George, Stalybridge, Cheshire.

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbprs%2fchs%2f4005533%2f00066&parentid=gbprs%2fb%2f765039638%2f1

Please could I have ideas for what is written after the word "Stayley"?

It's the fifth entry on the left-hand page.

[Phoenix]

It looks like (singer) Clerk pd. M

[Phoenix]

M looks as if it means the Staley area. Don't ask why that abbreviation, though!

[ElizabethHerts]

It's the "Singer" part that is perplexing me, Phoenix.

Thanks for your help.

[ElizabethHerts]

Lancs OPC has the following:


Baptism: 24 Jan 1808 Old St George, Stalybridge, Lancs.
Hannah Newton - D. of Joseph Newton & Jane
Abode: Stayley
Occupation: Singer
Notes: M. [continuation of entry reads] -

I'm not sure how Joseph was a Singer!
In 1815 he was a Woolen Clothier in business with his Buckley uncles and aunts.
By the late 1820s he was down in Southwark and had set up business as a Fire Brick Merchant.

[Phoenix]

My personal guess would be that he had a fancy christening for the baby, complete with a bit of music, for which the clerk was paid extra

[kiterunner]

Here it is on ancestry:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2959/40365_293633-00788/2971639?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dmanchesterearlybmdcro%26so%3d 2%26pcat%3d34%26_phsrc%3diNh3965%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3dnew%253f on*%26gsln_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26msfng %3djos*%26msfng_x%3d1%26msmng%3djane%26msmng_x%3d1 %26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp%26uidh%3d vm5&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

It's not clear whether Singer is the father's occupation, though, as it doesn't give most fathers' occupations.

[kiterunner]

Looking at the beginning of the book, the letters in the right-hand margin are A=Ashton, M=Mottram, S=Stockport.

[ElizabethHerts]

My personal guess would be that he had a fancy christening for the baby, complete with a bit of music, for which the clerk was paid extra

I hadn't thought of that, Phoenix.

I have only found two children for them, and Hannah was the first. The second was James in 1811, OH's 2x-grandfather.

Thanks, Kate. The abbreviations are very useful!

[ElizabethHerts]

No mention of a singer at James' baptism!

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2959/40365_293633-00791/2971719?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dmanchesterearlybmdcro%26so%3d 2%26pcat%3d34%26_phsrc%3diNh3965%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3dnew%253f on*%26gsln_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26msfng %3djos*%26msfng_x%3d1%26msmng%3djane%26msmng_x%3d1 %26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp%26uidh%3d vm5&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

[Mary from Italy]

The word "Singer" looks to have been added later, in a different hand.

It couldn't be Hannah's maiden name, could it?

[ElizabethHerts]

Mary, I've never been able to prove it conclusively, but the only marriage I could find for Joseph Newton and Jane was on 15th November 1806 at Manchester Cathedral.

Jane was Jane Hall.

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbprs%2fm%2f737336135%2f1
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbprs%2fchs%2f4018638%2f00980&parentid=gbprs%2fm%2f737336137%2f1

It says Joseph lived in Manchester, which I wouldn't have expected.

When Joseph's son, James, married in 1834 at St Saviour, Southwark, one of the witnesses was Arnold Hall.

However, I haven't been able to trace Jane's family so far.

Hannah was also the name of Joseph's mother, who was born Hannah Buckley.