can anyone read this place of birth?

[Margaret in Burton]

1861 census

RG9; Piece: 1747; Folio: 130; Page: 12

George Baker aged 8. It transcribed as Susmerton, Monmouthshire. That doesn't exist occording to Google.

(trying to help Babs on TOGG)

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8767&iid=GLSRG9_1745_1749-0575&fn=George&ln=Baker&st=r&ssrc=&pid=18113104

[borobabs]

Could it be a Furmaton ?? I know the old writing is terrible to read ;;pity Howie wasnt online ;;

[chrissiebee]

Surmeaton, perhaps?

Chris

[Margaret in Burton]

No, I'd say it def begins with an S

I keep looking everything I can think off up on Google maps but nothing seems to exist.

[Merry]

In 1871 it says Shirnewton for George and the sub-registration district where they are living is called Shire Newton, so I guess it's there?

O, if I google it's all one word - Shirenewton, just west of Chepstow in Monmouthshire.

[borobabs]

Oh well if thats the case that would fit in with the 1861 Census that says Chepstow thanks Merry

[Margaret in Burton]

Oh well if thats the case that would fit in with the 1861 Census that says Chepstow thanks Merry


But is that the right George?

[borobabs]

Pass Margaret that what Im trying to find out , will go upstairs now check the cert before programs ;;

[Margaret in Burton]

Surely the George in 1861 and the one in 1871 have different parents???

[borobabs]

Right Margaret I would give up with this for the time being , I have misplaced the wedding cert , I must have took it out when I was last working on this part and have been through every MC in the book so god knows where I have put it ;;
I have brought down a birth cert that I sent for which is 8 June 1854 George father William mother Maria formerly Griffiths he was farmer in Usk Mommouthshire which was under Trostrey ;;or something ;;

[Margaret in Burton]

That's a pity Babs

I have scanned all of my certs so I only have to view them on the computer now.
Didn't you make a note on your tree program about his father?

[borobabs]

Good thinking Margaret ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;right in my FTM I have father as John and that would have been from cert ;;;good lass now can you tell me where cert is lol

[Margaret in Burton]

Good thinking Margaret ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;right in my FTM I have father as John and that would have been from cert ;;;good lass now can you tell me where cert is lol

pmsl Babs

perhaps we had better go back to your TOGG thread

[borobabs]

Yep mr to lol

[kiterunner]

Babs, you've posted about him on other forums before and you said the marriage cert gave his father as John Baker, general labourer. And the witnesses were his bride's parents.
rootschat thread (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=b3341d1679230bf0c66fbf0537ffd8 08&topic=278252.0)

[borobabs]

Thank you Kate but still havnt got right cert of birth for him ;;

[Merry]

Surely the George in 1861 and the one in 1871 have different parents???

The two I was looking at both had dad as Alfred from Alveston, Gloucestershire and mum Emma from erm....somewhere else in Gloucestershire! I've forgotten now. All the children matched except Mark who died between 1861 and 1871.

[borobabs]

But the problem is Merry bthat Im not 100% sure they are the right families on the census before the 1881 ones ;;with not having his BC not sure of mothers name

[Merry]

What was his father's name on his marriage cert, Babs?

[borobabs]

HIs name was John the only cert I found in 1871 was ;;

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2572; Folio: 74; Page: 20; GSU roll: 835270.

[howie from gwent]

margaret I think Merry has got it right no other districts that i know of around here also if you google Caerwent they have a historysite but i cant find the addy at the mo and am going away for a few days good luck and seasons greeting to all xxxxHowie

[borobabs]

Same to you Howie oh I used to have that site as you gave me it before wonder where I saved that one under ;;