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Joy Dean
07-09-16, 12:55
Brilliant news:) But there are some issues at present with capacity problems.

Merry
07-09-16, 13:21
Which website is this, Joy?

Joy Dean
07-09-16, 13:22
Which website is this, Joy?

Oops I forgot to put the link :o
http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2016/09/irelands-historical-registers-of-birth.html

and the direct link to the main page:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

Direct link to civil records search:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

Joy Dean
07-09-16, 13:25
I wonder why it took nearly a month for Rebecca McAlarney's death to be registered.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05635/4585698

kiterunner
07-09-16, 13:30
Ooh, they had announced it was going live tomorrow, so I was going to post it later on today. Thanks for the heads up, Joy!

kiterunner
07-09-16, 13:33
I wonder why it took nearly a month for Rebecca McAlarney's death to be registered.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05635/4585698

There are quite a lot on that page which took weeks or months to be registered. I have a feeling they got longer to register deaths in Ireland than in England but I can't remember where I read it.

Joy Dean
07-09-16, 13:43
You're welcome.
And thank you for that information.

Rebecca had an "unknown" sibling! I hope Philip and Mary gave her a name later. https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03078/2128492

kiterunner
07-09-16, 13:50
Hope you don't mind, Joy, but I've added some direct links into your post #3.

Joy Dean
07-09-16, 14:08
Hope you don't mind, Joy, but I've added some direct links into your post #3.

Thank you, I am glad that you did:)

Terri
07-09-16, 18:22
Brilliant, thanks for this Joy.

3 quick searches has already turned everything I thought I knew about my Irish ancestry into total confusion, disarray and utter turmoil!:d

Oh well,, here we go again! :rolleyes:

James18
08-09-16, 00:41
Is there some kind of confusion over Donegal? I've found a great-uncle's marriage on GRONI (Ards, Donegal) but his wife's birth (pretty sure she was born in Ards) isn't on either site. I don't know what the cut-off points are in terms of dates and borders, but I'd have assumed Donegal was considered Irish Republic records?

James18
08-09-16, 01:13
Wait, what!? This has all of Ulster's records as well!?!?!?! :O

maggie_4_7
08-09-16, 05:08
Wait, what!? This has all of Ulster's records as well!?!?!?! :O

The partition of Ireland was in the 1920s so I assume Eire would hold all the records for Ireland up until then. I believe only 6 of Ulster's counties would eventually be in what we consider to be Northern Ireland today although during the 1920s they re-drew the border a few times before it was finally settled.

Joy Dean
08-09-16, 10:45
http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2016/09/irelands-historical-registers-of-birth.html "UPDATE 7:30pm: I've just spent a happy hour of research on the IrishGenealogy site, and it seems to be working just fine. There are, however, 'gaps' in the availability of images, as mentioned above, plus a few records that 'should', by time frame, have an image attached, but don't. I've also received emails from researchers who have found indexed entries that link to the wrong images. There seem to be more instances of this than I'd have expected. I've even found my own example: Bessie Santry, born 1896 in Kinsale; she doesn't appear on the linked page of the register.

I've emailed some questions regarding the issues raised today. I'll let you know the response in due course.

UPDATE: 8 September: I've heard back from the Department of Arts, Heritage Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs who manage the site. The website now holds 12.5million Index records linked to 2.5million images from the historic registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths. Images are available as follows:
Births: 1864 to 1915
Marriages: 1882 to 1940
Deaths: 1891 to 1965
The Images of the pre-1882 registers of Marriage and pre-1891 registers of Deaths are being updated by the General Register Office and will be added to the website in due course.

I have also been advised that the website may fluctuate a bit today while some last-minute checks are run before this evening's official launch."

James18
08-09-16, 13:13
The partition of Ireland was in the 1920s so I assume Eire would hold all the records for Ireland up until then.
Ah, of course, that makes sense. I am often guilty of overlooking the most obvious of details. :o

Explains why I found a 1900 death I was after, but not a 1931 death.

kiterunner
08-09-16, 14:23
I'm finding that a lot of the images that I want to view aren't available yet.

Joy Dean
08-09-16, 15:28
Can anyone read the time of birth for these twins, please? Catharine and Mary Ann born 26th September 1870 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03324/2218742 It looks like 9 something am.

kiterunner
08-09-16, 15:44
Catharine looks like 9 o/c am which I assume means 9 o'clock, and I think Mary Ann might be 9 1/2 o/c am. Further down the page are triplets! Born 3 o/c am, 4 o/c am and 4 1/2 o/c am. The 1/2 is clearer on that one.

Joy Dean
08-09-16, 15:57
Catharine looks like 9 o/c am which I assume means 9 o'clock, and I think Mary Ann might be 9 1/2 o/c am. Further down the page are triplets! Born 3 o/c am, 4 o/c am and 4 1/2 o/c am. The 1/2 is clearer on that one.

Thank you very much.

maggie_4_7
08-09-16, 16:16
Ah, of course, that makes sense. I am often guilty of overlooking the most obvious of details. :o

Explains why I found a 1900 death I was after, but not a 1931 death.

The NI records online ordering is here:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

It gives you a Townland map too but you have to register to do anything except search, you can do a free name search.

Joy Dean
09-09-16, 13:15
http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2016/09/irelands-historical-registers-of-birth.html "UPDATE: 9 September, 12:30pm: The site has been offline for over an hour. So, too, the National Archives of Ireland's Genealogy website (or, at least, its databases). Not sure what the problem is, but I'll advise when they're up and running again."

Joy Dean
09-09-16, 14:53
UPDATE: 3:30pm: And the site is back online. (So is the NAI's website.) http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2016/09/irelands-historical-registers-of-birth.html

Merry
09-09-16, 14:56
Thanks Joy.

I'm getting nowhere with finding any of the people I need even when the site is working. :o

Terri
09-09-16, 15:08
Is anyone else having to randomly sign in again? Sometimes over and over again mid-searches?

WendyPusey
09-09-16, 15:34
I have births, marriages and death certificates for my Great Grandmother and her parents and sibling, but only one shows up when I search, even though I know they are there.

Think I'll wait for a bit and see if any more records are added.

Merry
09-09-16, 16:14
Oh that's interesting Wendy.

Joy Dean
09-09-16, 17:25
Is anyone else having to randomly sign in again? Sometimes over and over again mid-searches?

Yes.:)

I have births, marriages and death certificates for my Great Grandmother and her parents and sibling, but only one shows up when I search, even though I know they are there.

Think I'll wait for a bit and see if any more records are added.

Try variations of a surname. I thought it would just put up variations but it doesn't seem to do that.
There have been mistranscriptions for McAlarney, understandably, and in one record the name is written as Malarney, dropping the c, although it had been transcribed as McAlarley.

Kit
09-09-16, 23:41
I've found 2 I really need but there are no images so I can't be sure they are mine so I will have to wait for updates.

I think it is awesome though that they are putting all this information online for free. I don't have many Irish relatives but with what is happening now I wouldn't mind if I had more.

kiterunner
10-09-16, 10:58
According to Chris Paton's blog, this is the date range for the images which have been digitised so far, and we have to wait for earlier marriages and deaths to be done:

Births: 1864 to 1915
Marriages: 1882 to 1940
Deaths: 1891 to 1965

Joy Dean
10-09-16, 14:24
According to Chris Paton's blog, this is the date range for the images which have been digitised so far, and we have to wait for earlier marriages and deaths to be done:

Births: 1864 to 1915
Marriages: 1882 to 1940
Deaths: 1891 to 1965

Yes. When I sent a query in feedback, I received:

"The years covered by the release of the historic records of Births, Marriages and Deaths are:

Births: 1864 to 1915

Marriages: 1882* to 1940

Deaths: 1891* to 1965

The General Register Office are currently working on updating further records of Marriages dating back to 1845 and Deaths dating back to 1864. These will be included in future updates to the records available on the website."

James18
10-09-16, 15:28
Well, I've managed to fill in a few gaps but I'm beginning to think that a couple of people whose births I'm after were never registered.

Terri
10-09-16, 16:25
Well, I've managed to fill in a few gaps but I'm beginning to think that a couple of people whose births I'm after were never registered.

HA! That's what I thought James, and look what happened!! :d

James18
10-09-16, 17:29
HA! That's what I thought James, and look what happened!! :d
Well Terri, if you can find Emily Burlington I'll let you have... bragging rights??? :d

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=737505.0