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This is my doctor: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=tna%2fr39%2f1253%2f1253j%2f010&parentid=tna%2fr39%2f1253%2f1253j%2f010%2f04
I remember him - or at least his waiting room - because it was shabby, old fashioned, and dominated by a barograph.
This is him in 1901: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbc%2f1901%2f1615-1616%2f0267&parentid=gbc%2f1901%2f0011583189&highlights=%22%22
So he is born in Hornsey in 1890, with at least one parent Russian (Warsaw). Can anyone spot him in 1891, or his birth?
He started off as a teacher - probably Chemistry teacher if his military record is any guide - became a doctor sometime after WW1 - never married
He left £50k in his will, but by the time he died in 1972, you don't get even executors
kiterunner
13-07-16, 12:57
He has a middle initial of W on the 1901 census but no middle name on his death reg, annoyingly, as I thought it might help with looking for his birth. The death reg does confirm that date of birth though. Will keep looking...
Who would have thought that such an ordinary seeming man would prove so great a mystery?
James Reverson's wife died, he married Lucy Adelaide Von Eckh in 1908 and had a daughter (well, I assume it's theirs!) Julia Nina in December 1908. There is a Brenda Audrey Reverson, whose birth eludes me who is with Julia and her husband in 1939: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=tna%2fr39%2f5325%2f5325b%2f016&parentid=tna%2fr39%2f5325%2f5325b%2f016%2f08
Needless to say, I cannot find James, Julia or Brenda in 1911.
I assume that this is Lucy's first marriage in 1896:
Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)
Blundell-Maple Grace Emily St. Alban's 3a918
Crampton David St Albans 3a918
Eckardstein Hermann J A E St. Albans 3a918
Maple Grace Emily B St. Albans 3a918
VON ECKARDSTEIN Hermann Johannes A E St. Alban's 3a918
Waldock Ada St Albans 3a918
which probably means she is actually Ada Waldock
Here is Lucy in 1911, calling herslef Von Eckh again:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_00379_0789_03/1309227?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dsXh879%26_phstart%3dsucce ssSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3d1911england%26so %3d2%26pcat%3d35%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26gsfn%3dherman%2520johanne s%26gsfn_x%3d0%26gsln%3dvon%2520eck%26gsln_x%3d0%2 6msbdy%3d1897%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp%3d1%26msmng%3d ada%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh%3d9vh&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
kiterunner
13-07-16, 17:31
I keep thinking the surname should be Leverson or something like that, but that didn't get me anywhere.
There are some Russian Yiddish American immigrants called Reverson.
I cannot make up my mind whether they are lurking, mistranscribed, out of the country, or using entirely different aliases.
I'm sure I saw something about Hermann (the son b 1898) emigrating to Canada (?) which said his father was James not the other Hermann, but I don't remember where I saw that now and lost interest because I was getting nowhere with where William R came from.
Sorry, yes, Baron Eck married Grace, I have discovered :o
The age is a bit off, but isn't this Lucy?
Births Sep 1871
Eyck Lucy Adelaide Warwick 6d 525
So she wasn't married until 1908 but already had two children, but she doesn't seem to be the mother of Julia and Brenda. I suppose if we could find them in 1911 we might find James too. But I couldn't find them!
It was Hermann's US Naturalization papers that said his father was James, but I can't find a version I can see online now as I don't have a US sub.
I keep wondering if this is Brenda?
Births Mar 1910
WILLIAMS Brenda Audrey Fulham 1a 161
mainly because I can't find this child in 1911!
When William enlisted in Sept 1915 he gave his address as 60 Station Road, Crayford, Kent. The box for next of kin originally had 'none' written in it, but this was amended to 'Mary Lewis, Rowan, Blean, Canterbury Kent - guardian'
He was promoted to Cpl 4 Sep 1915 (chemist, chem section)
He was discharged 14 Jul 1916 under COY KR Para 392 (XXV), His service being no longer required. It looks like his address was then given as 91 Woodlands Road, Girlington, Bradford. He served 315 days.
Mary Lewis from Blean is the one b 1835 on the 1911 census. She says she has one child, who must be the Elizabeth who filled in the form. Elizabeth single aged 46, was living two doors away at a house called Rowan :).
Going back, Mary seems to have a husband George up until 1881 and in 1891 she has a boarder called William Wells aged 1. He was b in Islington and there is a reg in Q1 1890 there, but no matches in Edmonton (where WR should have been registered).
Here's the 1891 census (no time to re-find the others)
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/6598/LNDRG12_146_147-0278?pid=7909440&backurl=http://search.ancestry.co.uk//cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DgXo4095%26_phstart%3DsuccessSourc e%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3Duki1891%26g ss%3Dangs-d%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26MS_AdvCB%3D1%26gsfn%3Dmar y%26gsfn_x%3D1%26gsln%3Dlewis%26gsln_x%3D1%26msbdy %3D1835%26msbdy_x%3D1%26msbdp%3D2%26gskw%3Dlondon% 26gskw_x%3D1%26MSAV%3D2%26uidh%3D672%26pcat%3D35%2 6fh%3D5%26h%3D7909440%26recoff%3D%26ml_rpos%3D6&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=gXo4095&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true
Off out now.
kiterunner
14-07-16, 09:55
Oh, well done, Merry!
So you mentioned he had a W as middle initial in 1901 - for Wells?? Perhaps James was his father too - James seems to have been busy!
Some Islington baps have dob on the record buy not transcribed. It's too difficult to search on my phone though!!
He was b in Islington and there is a reg in Q1 1890 there, but no matches in Edmonton
I hadn't noticed the Q1 1890 William Wells birth reg has middle name John, which I don't think helps! lol
I am trying to eliminate this William (the boarder) now I have a bit more time.
Mary from Italy
14-07-16, 12:49
I keep wondering if this is Brenda?
Births Mar 1910
WILLIAMS Brenda Audrey Fulham 1a 161
mainly because I can't find this child in 1911!
I noticed that one too, and haven't been able to eliminate her.
Mary from Italy
14-07-16, 12:56
Some Islington baps have dob on the record buy not transcribed. It's too difficult to search on my phone though!!
You can rule out the William Wells bap. Hornsey in 1892 because it was an adult baptism.
I've got distracted by this 1911 entry:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_09965_0151_03/53177811?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dgXo4147%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3d1911england%26s o%3d2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3dp*c illa%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dcooper%26gsln_x%3d1%26m sbdy%3d1851%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp%3d5%26mssng%3dhe nry%26mssng_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket %3drstp%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3d672&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
I can't find and matches for either HenryCooper's only dau, Evelyn Cooper marrying a Reverson (or similar) or a Swann (Priscilla's previous name - she had several daughters) marrying similarly. Also no birth reg in Hendon district for Phyllis.
Wasn't Julia Nina registered in Hendon?? :rolleyes: She would have only been 2¾ in 1911.
You can rule out the William Wells bap. Hornsey in 1892 because it was an adult baptism.
Thanks Mary!
I thought this might be Phyllis getting married:
Marriages Sep 1931
Anthony Eltie A Boughey Willesden 3a 903
Boughey Arthur Anthony Willesden 3a 903
Fordham Stanley G Reversoin Willesden 3a 903 <<<<<<<
Reversoin Phyllis B Fordham Willesden 3a 903 <<<<<<<
Her dob on the 1939 register is 10 June 1908. If she and Nina were any sort of sibling they can't have the same mother as Julia's birth was later on in 1908 (31 Aug?)
In Mar Q 1947 Phyllis married Reginald E Musgrave.
Re her dob, of course if she was born in June 1908 then she wouldn't have been four years old for the 1911 census, but her date of birth when she died is recorded as 10 June 1907!
Name:
Phyllis Blanche Musgrave
Birth Date: 10 Jun 1907
Date of Registration: Mar 1992
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Newbury
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 19
Page: 175
None of which helps with a birth reg!
I looked on fmp to see if any Reverson was mentioned as an exor in the probate calendar. William was for widow Clara Thomas in 1946. I can't see that her background is connected to his at all - She was born Clara Simmonds 28 Jan 1867 in Bethnal Green, the dau of Henry Francis and Rebecca Simmonds ne Hargood and married William Edward Thomas in 1889. I expect she was just a patient of Dr Reverson's,
Wow, you have been busy! I was out yesterday - will look a this properly at lunch time!
I am a daughter of Julia Nina Reverson, and I have some of the answers to your questions. I have been trying to find out information on James Reverson, our grandfather. Can you help?
Welcome. I'm sure you'll have some answers very soon. This group is brilliant at solving mysteries.
I am a daughter of Julia Nina Reverson, and I have some of the answers to your questions. I have been trying to find out information on James Reverson, our grandfather. Can you help?
Welcome to the forum :)
Perhaps you could tell us the answers you have!
I have just looked back to see what we have on James already - 1901 census - possible father to various people. Do you have any information about him from your mother's marriage certificate? (or anywhere else?!)
1901 census
93 Oakdale Road, Leyton, Essex
James Reverson head m 34 wood cutting machinist b Russia Warsaw (Russian subject)
Juliet Reverson wife m 36 b Russia Lody (Russian subject)
William W Reverson nephew s 11 b London Hornsey
Juliet/Julia's death:
Deaths Dec 1907
REVERSON Julia 42 Paddington 1a 50
James' remarriage
Marriages Jun 1908
REVERSON James Hendon 3a 561
Von Eckh Lucy Adelaide Hendon 3a 561
Do you have the above marriage cert and/or your mother's birth cert?
Have you found your mother on the 1911 census?
Do you know who Phyllis is? (posts #19 and #21)
Merry, if you can look at the image that 1901 census says Lodz, not Lodi, for Juliet's birthplace. It's currently the third-largest city in Poland, and before the war had the second-largest Jewish population after Warsaw.
Thanks Janet.
So, James doesn't seem to appear with his known name on the 1911 census. We think we have found his second wife, but whilst she has children with her in 1911 they are not Julia and Brenda (who I can't find at all!).
This is a resume of what we have on James' second wife (the 1908 marriage cert would help confirm if this information is correct):
Births Sep 1871
Eyck Lucy Adelaide Warwick 6d 525
1881 census - not found
Births Dec 1897
Von Eck Hermann Johannes Pancras 1b 60
1901 census - not found
Births Mar 1906
Voneck Lucy Pancras 1b 42
Marriages Jun 1908
REVERSON James Hendon 3a 561
Von Eckh Lucy Adelaide Hendon 3a 561
Lucy in 1911 with her two children - she says she has been married 14 years (!) and was born in Warwick about 1874/5 and has two living children:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_00379_0789_03/1309227?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dsXh879%26_phstart%3dsucce ssSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3d1911england%26so %3d2%26pcat%3d35%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26gsfn%3dherman%2520johanne s%26gsfn_x%3d0%26gsln%3dvon%2520eck%26gsln_x%3d0%2 6msbdy%3d1897%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp%3d1%26msmng%3d ada%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh%3d9vh&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
Is Lucy the mother of Julia, Brenda or Phyllis, all born between 1908 and 1911? If not, who is?
Earlier in this thread I said:
It was Hermann's US Naturalization papers that said his father was James, but I can't find a version I can see online now as I don't have a US sub.
Stupidly I didn't say where I had seen that and can't re-find it :o Can anyone else find it?
These look likely for Lucy:
Marriages Dec 1926
Clark John Reverson W. Ham 4a 687
Reverson Lucy Clark W.Ham 4a 687
1939 register:
238 Sheringham Avenue , East Ham C.B., Essex
Lucy Clark b 15 Aug 1871 married occ Unpaid Domestic Duties
John Clark b 03 Jan 1860 married occ Watchman
possible deaths?
Deaths Mar 1942
Clark John 82 Essex S.W. 4a 284
Deaths Mar 1957
CLARK Lucy A 85 Essex S.W. 5a 204
None of which helps with James Reverson! But you never know what might......
This may be the same naturalization record as I saw somewhere else, with James as father:
Ancestry - US Naturalization Records index 1791-1992
Hermann Johannes Von Eckh
Los Angeles California 1945
or maybe in this database?
Ancestry - California, Federal Naturalization Records, 1887-1991
but I don't have a US sub to view this.
kiterunner
16-08-16, 08:52
Hermann's petition:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/3998/40735_1220701439_0084-01098/2134905?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dNKb5301%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3dlosangelscanatu ralization%26so%3d2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3 dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3dher man*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dvon%2520eck*%26gsln_x%3 d1%26cp%3d0%26catbucket%3drstp%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3 dvm5&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
Los Angeles, California 24 Apr 1945
Name Hermann Johannes von Eckh (John von Eyck)
Residence Hollywood, Calif, occupation musician & actor
Age 47, born 27 Oct 1897 in London St Pancras, Enbgland
Wife Florence, married 14 Feb 1938 at Hollywood, Calif, she was born 19 Feb 1903 at Glasgow, Scotland.
Last place of foreign residence Windsor, Ont, Canada.
Declaration:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/3998/43866_3421606203_0572-01635/3092406?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dNKb5301%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3dlosangelscanatu ralization%26so%3d2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3 dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3dher man*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dvon%2520eck*%26gsln_x%3 d1%26cp%3d0%26catbucket%3drstp%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3 dvm5&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
Los Angeles, California 12 Jul 1941
Hermann John von Eckh, rest of info as above.
But I haven't seen anything giving his father's name yet. Maybe need to drink my coffee first!
kiterunner
16-08-16, 08:55
and the index record doesn't give father's name.
But there is a public tree on ancestry showing James as his father - is that where you got it from?
These two entries may be connected with Lucy:
Births Mar 1869
Von Eyck Agnes Warwick 6d 540
Deaths Mar 1870
Von Eyck Alma Helena M 15 Warwick 6d 372
Here is Agnes with her mother and a lot of siblings in 1871. I would imagine Lucy is another sibling not yet born:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7619/WARRG10_3198_3201-0491?pid=24226315&backurl=http://search.ancestry.co.uk//cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DNTW665%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource %26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3Duki1871%26gs s%3Dangs-d%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26msT%3D1%26MS_AdvCB%3D1%26 gsfn%3Dagnes%26gsfn_x%3D1%26msbdy%3D1869%26msbdy_x %3D1%26gskw%3Dwarwick%26gskw_x%3D1%26cpxt%3D1%26cp %3D11%26catbucket%3Drstp%26MSAV%3D2%26uidh%3D672%2 6pcat%3D35%26fh%3D9%26h%3D24226315%26recoff%3D%26m l_rpos%3D10&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=NTW665&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true#?imageId=WARRG10_3198_3201-0490
Reverson - if you don't have an ancestry sub I will transcribe that census, but this keyboard doesn't have a properly functioning spacebar and I may go crazy before I reach the end of the transcript, so will wait to see if you
have a sub first!
and the index record doesn't give father's name.
But there is a public tree on ancestry showing James as his father - is that where you got it from?
I wouldn't have thought so, Kate as I wouldn't have taken much notice of that normally, but I can't say definitely not.
Thank you for the information. I'm new to this so I'm not sure where to look etc. This is the information I have so far:
My mother is Julia Nina Reverson born 31st August 1908. She had two sisters - Phyllis Blanche (born 10th June 1907) and Brenda Audrey (born 7th Dec 1909).
Phyllis did marry Stanley Fordham but the name in the register is incorrectly written as 'Reversoin' and she later married Reginald Musgrave.
My grandmother is Emily Swan. My mother's birth certificate says 'mother - Emily Reverson formerly Swan, father James Reverson Sewing Machine Companys Manager'. The address on the certificate is 90 Priory Park Rd, Willesden.
Emily subsequently married (?) Ernest Simmons with whom she had 2 sons - Jack born August 1912 & Victor born 1914. Ernest Simmons already had 2 sons (Bert and Leslie (b 1907). So James is no longer part of her life by then. That's where the mystery comes in. My Aunt Phyllis used to tell us that he went back to Russia and died in a fire, but my mother and Aunt Bren never confirmed this.
My mother, Julia Nina,is the only Reverson registered birth I can find between the years 1864-1914. Emily died in 1934, registered as Emily Simmons.
I have some other information which I'd like to share privately. Need to find out how I do this!
#34: I don't have an Ancestry sub. As I'm new to this not sure what to join and what not. Can you advise? Thank you.
A certain amount depends on where your ancestors come from as to which sub(s) might be the most helpful. For the time being we can try and help you make the right start as (on the face of things!) this part of your tree is quite complicated.
Do you have your mother's birth and marriage certificates?
Oops sorry, didn't see post #36, so just reading that now!
Ah, so post #19 where I found Phyllis as a grandchild is with the family with Swan connections is a good link.
You are going to need this all typed out though aren't you? it would be quicker for me to do that on another computer before I have a breakdown (lol), but that will have to be a bit later on today.
Do you have the birth cert for Brenda? (just because this is the nearest to the 1911 census)
Julia Nina,is the only Reverson registered birth I can find between the years 1864-1914
Good point!
I found that Brenda Williams one in the right time frame, but don't know if it's right? (can't see why it would be, but can't eliminate it)
If you want to send someone a personal message then you can click their name and there will be a link. Or I can move this thread (or your part of it!0) to our sensitive research board which can only be seen by our members.
I've got distracted by this 1911 entry:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_09965_0151_03/53177811?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dgXo4147%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3d1911england%26s o%3d2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3dp*c illa%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dcooper%26gsln_x%3d1%26m sbdy%3d1851%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp%3d5%26mssng%3dhe nry%26mssng_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket %3drstp%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3d672&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
I can't find and matches for either HenryCooper's only dau, Evelyn Cooper marrying a Reverson (or similar) or a Swann (Priscilla's previous name - she had several daughters) marrying similarly. Also no birth reg in Hendon district for Phyllis.
Wasn't Julia Nina registered in Hendon?? :rolleyes: She would have only been 2¾ in 1911.
Oh and there is a connection between Cooper and Swan. Emily Swan's mother remarried to a Cooper. We think our Aunt Phyl lived with them in Tilbury for the first 6 years of her life (1907-13) before rejoining her sisters and her Mum. This might have been because Emily Swan was now with Ernest Simmons.
And I note the reference to William acting as executor to a Simmonds.
Good point!
I found that Brenda Williams one in the right time frame, but don't know if it's right? (can't see why it would be, but can't eliminate it)
If you want to send someone a personal message then you can click their name and there will be a link. Or I can move this thread (or your part of it!0) to our sensitive research board which can only be seen by our members.
The sensitive area sounds just the job.
Ah, so post #19 where I found Phyllis as a grandchild is with the family with Swan connections is a good link.
You are going to need this all typed out though aren't you? it would be quicker for me to do that on another computer before I have a breakdown (lol), but that will have to be a bit later on today.
Do you have the birth cert for Brenda? (just because this is the nearest to the 1911 census)
Thank you so much for the advice.
Unfortunately I don't have a birth certificate for Brenda and neither does her son. I have a copy of her marriage certificate (25th Jan 1936) which shows her as Brenda Audrey Reverson and father as James, Manager Sewing Machine Shop.
A typed up version bringing everything together would be marvellous. Thank you so much.
Yes, maybe I will leave this thread as it is here (if that's OK with you) and make a new one in Sensitive Research with the info in the right order (or a better order lol). I presume at this juncture you don't need so much info on Lucy as she isn't your relative, though of course she has a connection with James so is relevant in that way.
I have to do some other things now so will tackle that this afternoon/evening whilst watching the Olympics!
~~waves to Reverson~~
Welcome to the site!
It seems a bit rude to be interested in people who weren't my own ancestors, but Dr Reverson was a lovely man. Hope you have success in finding out about your ancestors. The sleuths here are second to none!
Yes, maybe I will leave this thread as it is here (if that's OK with you) and make a new one in Sensitive Research with the info in the right order (or a better order lol). I presume at this juncture you don't need so much info on Lucy as she isn't your relative, though of course she has a connection with James so is relevant in that way.
I have to do some other things now so will tackle that this afternoon/evening whilst watching the Olympics!
This is so kind of you. & so pleased that you are interested. Yes please leave the info up and place the typed up information on the sensitive facility.
You're probably right about Lucy, because the real interest would be why James remarried shortly before my Mum was born with Emily using the name Emily Reverson. Lucy's family might have some information which maybe I could pursue later. I have ordered their marriage certificate.
I also note my mum's name is the same as his first wife's.
Question: would James have had to sign the register of birth for my Mum? Or could Emily have registered it without James counter signing?
~~waves to Reverson~~
Welcome to the site!
It seems a bit rude to be interested in people who weren't my own ancestors, but Dr Reverson was a lovely man. Hope you have success in finding out about your ancestors. The sleuths here are second to none!
So pleased that you are interested, and that I've found people who can help. Exciting.
I see from the post on the 1901 census that William was James' nephew. It's good to hear that he was a lovely man. I'm hoping that this is a family trait which he shared with James!
Question: would James have had to sign the register of birth for my Mum? Or could Emily have registered it without James counter signing?
Question: would James have had to sign the register of birth for my Mum? Or could Emily have registered it without James counter signing?
If Emily registered the birth and lied abut being married to James (common for that to happen) then she would not need him to be with her at the register office. Proof of marriage would not be required.
Oh and there is a connection between Cooper and Swan. Emily Swan's mother remarried to a Cooper. We think our Aunt Phyl lived with them in Tilbury for the first 6 years of her life (1907-13) before rejoining her sisters and her Mum. This might have been because Emily Swan was now with Ernest Simmons.
And I note the reference to William acting as executor to a Simmonds.
Yes, we have Priscilla Swann remarrying earlier on this thread and then having Phyllis living with her in 1911.
Who is William who was an executor?
(sorry, I will get round to the other thread shortly! lol)
Mary from Italy
16-08-16, 16:21
If you want to research your tree seriously, you will need a sub to one of the paying sites sooner or later, although there are a lot of free sites for certain things.
If you want to try them out, as the subs are quite expensive, you can get a 14-day trial subscription; they'll ask for your credit card details, but if you cancel the trial before the 14 days are up, they won't take any money from you.
Alternatively, if you're in the UK, your local library should be able to give you free access to Ancestry and/or FindmyPast.
There are various levels of subscription, depending on whether you want just UK or world records. I don't think either site has much for Russia/Poland, though.
Might be worth having a look at this site for Russian/Polish records, even if you don't know whether James was Jewish:
http://www.jewishgen.org
There's a thread in sensitive research now (a bit shorter at the moment!), so , Mary, I'll move your last post over there and perhaps any further posts for Reverson could also be posted in SR.
Ah, maybe you are doing it! :D lol
Mary from Italy
16-08-16, 17:29
Yes, sorry, I cancelled it from this thread and posted it on the other one.
Merry - your post no 49: I missed responding to this question on William acting as an executor for a Simmonds - it's from # 22.
Thanks, Reverson.
I hadn't read back, so had forgotten about that Simmonds connection (if it is a connection!). I will add it to the other thread.
I looked on fmp to see if any Reverson was mentioned as an exor in the probate calendar. William was for widow Clara Thomas in 1946. I can't see that her background is connected to his at all - She was born Clara Simmonds 28 Jan 1867 in Bethnal Green, the dau of Henry Francis and Rebecca Simmonds ne Hargood and married William Edward Thomas in 1889. I expect she was just a patient of Dr Reverson's,
I've just realised Clara was living at the same address as William R in 1937 (e-rolls) so perhaps she was his housekeeper. She had been replaced by 1939.
Before my time, I fear!
I remember his house, and how he refused to sell, while gim-crack properties went up around him.
So much useful information keeps on turning up online that it is helpful to revisit old threads.
William Reverson attended the Simon Langton school for boys from at least 1906, being awarded prizes and honourable mentions at the end of year, and later giving a memorable performance as Mrs Malaprop. As some of his successes were reported in a Whitstable newspaper, this suggests Mary Lewis of Blean was in truth his guardian by this stage.
He volunteered as a soldier in 1915, by which time he must have been living in Crayford as when he returned home on leave in 1916, he was given a hearty welcome by his many friends.
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