Hannah Easten

[JBee]

Help can anyone find a birth for this lady supposedly c1878 in Low Fell, Gateshead, Co Durham

She married in Jul qtr 1899 to a John Coulson Smith in Gateshead, Co Durham.

In the 1901 census she is here with her husband, Anna as opposed to Hannah, there's a brother in law William ? Cook bc1871 (transcribed c1881) in Low Fell , and nephew William Anderson aged 3 born Birtley, Co Durham.

Because both Anna/Hannah and William were both born in Low Fell I wonder if they are brother and sister - in which case where does the name Easten come from?

1901 census in Walker Newcastle upon Tyne

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7814/NBLRG13_4806_4807-0364/30808057?backurl=http://person.ancestry.co.uk/tree/5359909/person/55000299529/facts/citation/343733041908/edit/record

1911 census - in North Shields, Co Durham

just John C Smith
Hannah Smith - still saying born Low Fell
and their 2 sons.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_30740_0373_03/35391387?backurl=http://person.ancestry.co.uk/tree/5359909/person/55000299529/facts/citation/343733032107/edit/record

Any help much appreciated.

[Mary from Italy]

Don't forget that "brother-in-law" sometimes means "step-brother".

[kiterunner]

This could possibly be her in 1891 though the age is out:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=60948

Providence Place, Gateshead
Jane Easton Head Wid 43 Northumberland, Newcastle
William Do Son S 21 Glassmaker Do Do
Mary Ann Do Daur S 18 Ropemaker Durham, Gateshead
Ellen Easton Daur S 17 Ropemaker Durham, Washington
Maggie Do Do 14 Do Do Gateshead
Hannah Do Do 8 Scholar Do Do

[JBee]

Thanks Kate - I thought you had found her but according to another ancestry tree that Hannah Easton married Edward Trodden in Mar 1902.

[kiterunner]

This family looks likely to be connected:

1841 census (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8978/DURHO107_296_297-0213/4899622?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1841%26so%3d2%26pcat%3dROO T_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3deast*n%2 6gsln_x%3d1%26msypn__ftp%3dGateshead%252c%2bDurham %252c%2bEngland%26msypn%3d83439%26msypn_PInfo%3d8-%257c0%257c0%257c3257%257c3251%257c0%257c0%257c0%2 57c5263%257c83439%257c0%257c%26msypn_x%3d1%26msypn __ftp_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gskw%3dfel l%26gskw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3d rstp&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults)
Low Fell, Gateshead, Durham
Thomas Cook 45 Coal Miner Y
Elizabeth Do 50 Y
Margaret Do 75 Y
William Easton 9 Y

[kiterunner]

Same household as post #5, in 1851:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/DURHO107_2402_2402-0372/14754794?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1851%26so%3d2%26pcat%3dROO T_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsfn%3dwil*%26g sfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3deast*%26gsln_x%3d1%26msbdy_x%3d 1%26msbdp%3d2%26MSAV%3d2%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26msbdy%3d 1832%26gskw%3dgateshead%26gskw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26 cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

and 1861:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8767/DURRG9_3805_3809-0187/12762953?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1861%26so%3d2%26pcat%3dROO T_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsfn%3dwil*%26g sfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3deast*%26gsln_x%3d1%26msbdy_x%3d 1%26msbdp%3d2%26MSAV%3d2%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26msbdy%3d 1832%26gskw%3dgateshead%26gskw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26 cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
William Easton's birthplace is Newcastle on Tyne.

[JBee]

Thanks Kite, that does look like a connection but how I don't know.

I've been struggling to find a link to Hannah though. In the 1901 census William Cook has an initial but its been transcribed as an L but I'm not sure.

[kiterunner]

I was trying to figure that middle initial out earlier and I did think it looked most like an L. I tried to find his army records and I did find a William Cook or Cooke born about the right time who joined the Durham Light Infantry, father was George Cook(e) of Gateshead but I got nowhere trying to find the family and link them with the name Easten! And since that William didn't have a middle name, maybe not the right person anyway.

[kiterunner]

All I can think of is getting John and Hannah's marriage cert, sorry.

[JBee]

Thanks Kite - your help much appreciated.

Probably have to get the marriage certificate but will have to wait awhile - hopefully one of the aussies might have got it already - am waiting for a reply on ancestry.

[Merry]

What about these?

Marriages Mar 1865

Brown Susan Tynemouth 10b 319 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Cook William Easton Tynemouth 10b 319 <<<<<<<<<<
Cooke William Easton Tynemouth 10b 319 <<<<<<<<<<<
Hunter Joseph Tynemouth 10b 319
Moore Margaret Ann Tynemouth 10b 319

Then 1871:

William E Cooke 38
Susan Cooke 28
Thomas Cooke 5
John B Cooke 4
Edith Cooke 3 Months

1881 - can't find them....

1891:

William Cooke 58
Susan Cooke 48
John Cooke 24
James Cooke 18
Edith Cooke 15
Hannah Cooke 13 <<<<<<<<
Robert Cooke 10

I just feel if I could find the 1881 census there would be a William b 1871!

[Merry]

Sorry, I forgot to point out the William Cook I listed above is the same age and birthplace as the William Easton Kate found (Newcastle abt 1833).

[kiterunner]

So we know what to look for in 1881, these are the full transcriptions for the records that Merry found:
1871 Low Fell, Gateshead
William E Cooke Head Mar 38 Grocer Northumberland Newcastle
Susan Cooke Wife Do 28 Do North Sunderland
Thomas Do Son 5 Durham Low Fell
John B Do Son 4 Do Do
Edith Do Daur 3 mos Do Do

1891 3 Cross Row, Gateshead
William Cooke Head M 58 Retired Bookeeper Northumberland Newcastle
Susan Do Wife M 48 Durham Sunderland
John Cooke Son S 24 Painter Do Low Fell
James Do Son S 18 Coal Miner Do Do
Edith Do Daur S 15 Preparing Glass for Photographer Do Do
Hannah Do Daur 13 Do Do
Robert Do Son 10 Scholar Do Do

[kiterunner]

So this is them in 1881, transcribed as Corke on ancestry:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7572/DURRG11_5039_5043-0786/4667992?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1881%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%2 6new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsf n%3dedith%26gsfn_x%3d1%26msfng%3dwil*%26msfng_x%3d 1%26msmng%3dsus*%26msmng_x%3d1%26gskw%3dgateshead% 26gskw_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

and yes, there is a son William.

3 Cross Row, Gateshead
William Easton Cooke Head Mar 48 Book-keeper Newcastle on Tyne
Susan Do Wife Mar 38 Dos Wife Northumberland North Sunderland
Thomas Easton Do Son Unm 16 Coal Miner Durham Gateshead
John Brown Do Son Unm 14 Apprentice Painter Do Do
William Richard Do Son 11 Scholar Do Do
James do Son 8 Do Do Do
Rochester Do Son 7 Do Do Do
Edith Margaret Do Daur 5 Do Do Do
Hannah Do Do 3 Do Do
Robert Do Son 10 Mons Do Do
Jane Brown Wife Sister Unm 21 Domestic Servant Do Do

Well done, Merry!

[Merry]

Thanks!

I can't cope with transcribing anything on this laptop as every time I move to another page I have time to make and drink a cup of tea before it finishes loading!

[Merry]

Oooh, I thought the L was actually an R in 1901 and I see he is Wm Richard Cook!

[Merry]

Although Wm and Susan used the surname Cook after their marriage, when they died the deaths were registered as Easten:


Deaths Sep 1899

Easten Susan 57 Gateshead 10a 639
Easten William 67 Gateshead 10a 635

[Merry]

Without Wm Easten's marriage cert we don't know anything about his parents. I'm just wondering if there are two Wm Easten's b Newcastle about the same time, or one?

In 1851 there's the lodger Kate posted but there is also another the same age (I think) and birthplace who is the son of James and Margary Easten. Easiest way to find him is if you search for Margary Eastin (that spelling) on ancestry. His entry has been transcribed as aged 10 in 1851 but I think he's 18. Says he is a cabinet maker in 1851 (also his father's occ) but I did still wonder if this Wm is the same one as the lodger, just listed twice? I also wondered if Margery's maiden name might be Cook?!

[kiterunner]

I think there must be two, Merry, because the reason I never found William as Cook on the later censuses was that I found a William Easten the right age born Newcastle on those censuses and thought that was him. I think that one was actually living in Newcastle. My internet was going slow so I couldn't easily go back and check on the earlier censuses to see if there were two at that point.

[Merry]

Oh, OK, so at least it could be important to know there may be two of them?!

[Merry]

I noticed William Richard Cook/Easten b 1869 wasn't with his parents in 1871 and hoped he might be with a relative of his father. Turned out he is with his maternal grandmother, transcribed by ancestry as William R Caston!

[JBee]

Sorry have not been keeping up with all your hard work - was hoping to get a reply through ancestry but both of them are keeping quiet.

Might just have to bite the bullet even though it's only a distant twig and get the marriage certificate just for curiousity sake to find the name of the father at least and hopefully sort out the Easten and Cooke relationship.

Must thank you both though for persistence and yes there does seem to be at least 2 Hannah Easten's.

[Merry]

I think the other Hannah Easton Kate found and posted in #3 married Edward Trodden in 1902. They are together in 1911 in Newcastle (see link), and had two further children registered with the correct mmn. Hannah died in 1950 aged 68.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_30552_0391_03/35772883?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1911England%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_ r_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsln%3d trodden%26gsln_x%3d1%26msbdy%3d1883%26msbdy_x%3d1% 26msbdp%3d2%26gskw%3dnewcastle*%2520northum*%26gsk w_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3d672&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults