Eliza Enoch

[Len of the Chilterns]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as : Eliza ENOCH
Date and place of birth: unknown
Names of parents; unknown
Date and place of baptism - if applicable: unknown
Details of each of her marriages Samual FAIRBRASS (corruption of Farbrace) b.1822m. Married Sept 1844 at St George The Martyr, Southwark
Addresses where they lived - Southwark, London.
Date, place and cause of death. Not researched
Date and place of burial / cremation. Not researched
Details of will / administration of their estate - Not researched
Memorial inscription - if any. Not known

[kiterunner]

I've found the banns for her marriage on ancestry - 4th, 11th and 18th August 1844 at St George the Martyr. Then they married on the 25th August 1844 - her surname is spelt Enock on the actual marriage entry. Her age is given as 21, father Humphrey Enock, weaver. Her residence is given as John Street, and the witnesses were Robert Saunders and Elizabeth Saunders. In case you don't have Samuel's details, he was 22, a painter, also lived at John Street, father Thomas Loveday Fairbrass, painter.

[kiterunner]

Huh, can't see her baptism just now, will try again tomorrow.

[Margaret in Burton]

What census do you have her on Len?

[Merry]

There's a Humphrey Enoch, silk weaver in Abingdon, Berks in 1841 & 1851.

Death?


Deaths Mar 1864
Enock Humphrey Abingdon 2c 229

[Merry]

Did Samuel die in 1849 and Eliza remarry in 1850?

[Merry]

Yes that's what seems to have happened.

Eliza remarried to William Maunder in 1850 and is with him in 1851, only her name is transcribed 'Elira'. The census has her birthplace as Abingdon, Berks which makes it seem highly likely that Humphrey Enoch b 1803 is her father.

EDIT: See post #11 re what I've said here, below:

Only hitch is, she doesn't have any children with her from the first marriage in 1851, but she would need at least one wouldn't she? :o

[Merry]

Hmmm......maybe I've gone wrong somewhere as in 1861 they have moved to Abingdon and still there are no children. Also, both William Maunder and Eliza are getting progressively younger! (1844 she was 21, 1851 she was 25 and 1861 she was 30!)

[Margaret in Burton]

I looked last night at deaths but nothing conclusive because of the lack of age on the index.

I also checked the NBI, nothing at all.

Couldn't find then on a census but of course the 1851 is still playing up I think.

[Merry]

Len, who was their child who was your grandparent?

[Merry]

Hmmm......maybe I've gone wrong somewhere?

Well, not that wrong as the marriage between Eliza Fairbrass and William Maunder is also on the LMA records and that has her as a 24 year old widow (six years after she was aged 21!) the dau of Humphrey Enoch, weaver. The marriage was 2nd June 1850 at St Peter's, Walworth in the parish of St Mary, Newington. Their address, Pitt Street, Newington, is on the marriage cert for both of them and is the same on the 1851 census.

Of course I have been a dumbo about the children thing, as in 1851 they had Emma aged 2 and I was thinking she was William Maunder's child, but she was actually Samuel Fairbrass's child! Whoops. She isn't with them aged 12 though.

[Merry]

Did the daughter, Emma, marry James Williams?

The last I've seen of Eliza and William Maunder is on the 1871 census when they are in Lambeth (both recorded as aged 41). After this I lost them.

[kiterunner]

According to Hugh Wallis, Abingdon baptisms for the right period are included in the IGI, but I can't see Eliza in there.

[Merry]

There are two parishes in Abingdon - St Nicholas and St Helen, but possibly only St Nicholas is on the IGI (one batch seems to be unnamed, but the date of it follows on from the other St Nicholas batch). Humphrey Enoch is living in St Helen's parish on the 1841-1861 census.

[kiterunner]

Ah, that could explain it.

[Len of the Chilterns]

I've found the banns for her marriage on ancestry - 4th, 11th and 18th August 1844 at St George the Martyr. Then they married on the 25th August 1844 - her surname is spelt Enock on the actual marriage entry. Her age is given as 21, father Humphrey Enock, weaver. Her residence is given as John Street, and the witnesses were Robert Saunders and Elizabeth Saunders. In case you don't have Samuel's details, he was 22, a painter, also lived at John Street, father Thomas Loveday Fairbrass, painter.

Thank you.

I have a tremendous amount of information on the Fairbrass family, including Samuel who was one of seven children of Thomas F. (b abt 1796 d, 1866) and Sarah Cleaver. but for some reason have never got round to following up Eliza. The Fairbrass tree goes back to the 1500s in Kent although the name was originally Farbrace. I have several photos of their daughter Emma Kate.

My apologies to Eliza for overlooking her.

[Len of the Chilterns]

Did the daughter, Emma, marry James Williams?

The last I've seen of Eliza and William Maunder is on the 1871 census when they are in Lambeth (both recorded as aged 41). After this I lost them.

Yes, the daughter Emma Kate Fairbrass 1868-1930 (who was in service to the Maunders) married James Williams1846-1893 in St Mary Magdalene Oxford on March 10 1868. They lived in Abingdon, which was then in BRK.,and had 14 children

[Len of the Chilterns]

Did Samuel die in 1849 and Eliza remarry in 1850?

Samuel Fairbrass b. 6 April 1822 d. 3 December1848 at 33 Salisbury St Lockfields, Newington, Surrey m Eliza Enoch abt. Sept 1844.
Their daughter Emma Kate (aka Kate) b 17 July 1848 at 33 York Place, Pitt St, Walworth Surrey d. 5 April 1930 at 29 Spring Road, Abingdon Brk. I met Kate several times (that dates me). She had a horrid Pomeranean dog called Leo with whom I shared a mutual dislike. 8 of her 14 children survived to adulthood, the 8th being my mother.

My cousin Alan has written a history of the Williams Family of Abingdon and in it he remarks that Eliza's father Humphrey Enoch was a "weaver". Also, the cause of Samuel's death was "haemorrhage into abdomen from ruptured spleen after 4½ days" and queries if he had fallen (being a painter and glazier). He also remarks that six months later Eliza remarried. Her new husband was William Maunder and they were married on 2nd June 1850 at St Peters Church in Walworth, he being described as a batchelor and she a widow.

This shows I was wrong in my above post and should pay more attention.

[Merry]

I have no record of her remarrying.

This is the marriage:

Marriages Jun 1850
Barnes Georgiana Newington 4 464
Clay Mary Newington 4 464
Davis Sarah Newington 4 464
Fairbrass Eliza Newington 4 464 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gunning George Newington 4 464
Maunder William Newington 4 464 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Richardson Coling James Newington 4 464
Twyford Thomas Francis Newington 4 464

[Len of the Chilterns]

Merry
Emma Kate Williams (nee Fairbrass) was my grandmother, my mother being Mildred Alice Williams.

To quote from my cousin Alan William's account (condensed):

When Emma Kate was 2, her mother Eliza remarried to William Maunders. He was a baker aged 23 and his address at the time of the marriage on 2nd June 1850 was 33 Pitt Street, Walworth and it was the same address where Emma Kate was born in 1848. The marriage was at St Peter's Church, Walworth. He was a batchelor and she a widow.
Her age on the cert, was given as 24 though she was already 21 at the time of her first marriage in 1844.
The marriage of Eliza to William Maunder explains a family mystery whereby two of Emma Kate's children's birth certs. gave her maiden name as Maunders (sic) although Fairbrass appears on the birth certs of other children.
Although "Emma Kate" was registered on birth as "Emma", "Kate" appeared on her marriage and death cert. She was generally known as Kate.

If you would like to borrow a copy "The Williams Family of Abingdon" by Alan Williams, please PM me. It consists of 55 sheets of A4 with cover in a spiral binder.

[Merry]

Oh, so you knew all that already! lol

As you see, I spent four or five hours on this the other day, as I was under the impression you didn't know Eliza's birthplace because you didn't know what had happened to her after her first marriage!!

[Len of the Chilterns]

Sorry if I misled you I have not researched Eliza, because my cousin did my mother's (Williams) side of the family whilst I did the paternal line. I do not think that either of us knows what happened to her after her second marriage. We both keep the other informed of new information but Mrs Maunder became lost to us.