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Kit
16-03-16, 00:12
My 2g grandmother Julia Ann Walmsley was born according to her birth certificate on 20 October 1852. I asked for the copy of the register, not a hand written copy from Staffs RO.

Her baptism is on FMP and is recorded as 18 October 1852. I have double checked and it is the right year and date.

I'm leaning towards the birth cert being wrong.

Is there anything I can do to sort this out?

I can't find her on the 1939 census. Her married name was Simpson.
Kit
16-03-16, 00:45
Putting it here so I don't forget:

There is a Julia A Simpson born 10/2/1849 Widow on the 1939 register.

I can't see the year being right as she has an older brother Joseph on the census born about 1850, but you never know.
Merry
16-03-16, 05:51
Is there anything I can do to sort this out?


What's the date the birth was registered? If you took the birth back a few days would the registration have been late? (over 42 days). Someone may have been avoiding paying a fine perhaps?
Merry
16-03-16, 06:00
There is a Julia A Simpson born 10/2/1849 Widow on the 1939 register.


I see she had got a bit younger by the time she died.

Perhaps she was born 2 Oct and someone reversed the numbers when writing it down?!!
JBee
16-03-16, 09:43
I have the baptism of a grandmother in 1876 but birth wasn't registered so wonder if the family were fined lol.
kiterunner
16-03-16, 09:58
Was your Julia definitely still alive in 1939, Toni? There is a Julia A Simpson death Apr-Jun 1938 Manchester South, age 88.
Olde Crone
16-03-16, 10:23
JBee

In order to fine someone, you have to know they haven't registered a birth. It is unlikely that anyone would actually go to the registrar and say "I haven't registered a birth, fine me". Most people saw civil registration as a piece of needless bureaucracy back then and it was only in later years that the advantages became clear, such as when trying to get a pension or some other kind of benefit.

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Kit
17-03-16, 01:29
What's the date the birth was registered? If you took the birth back a few days would the registration have been late? (over 42 days). Someone may have been avoiding paying a fine perhaps?

The birth was registered 25th November so no not close to a fine. Of course they may have made it up to be within the time frame.

Was your Julia definitely still alive in 1939, Toni? There is a Julia A Simpson death Apr-Jun 1938 Manchester South, age 88.

Yes. It has taken me over 24 hours to find but I have her death certificate. She died in 1941 at 72 Wilmot Drive Cross Heath.

I tried searching that address but it didn't give a result.