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Anstey Nomad
02-03-16, 19:55
How usual is this?

I've got more research to do, but Sapper William Dawson 155643 from Kirkby Lonsdale in Westmorland appears to be commemorated of the war memorial there:

http://moodle.queenelizabeth.cumbria.sch.uk/pluginfile.php/214360/mod_resource/content/0/Lest%20We%20Forget%20vol2%20LQ.pdf

and also on the war memorial at Walesby, Notts:

http://southwellchurches.nottingham.ac.uk/walesby/hwarmem.php

I know it's the same chap because I've read through his army record and he was married (briefly) to my great aunt Annie Billyard.

Even with all the family info given here:

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1219/miuk1914h_132241-00378?pid=514306&backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2f%2fcg i-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3dBritishArmyServic e%26gss%3dangs-d%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26_F8007A65%3d155 643%26_F0007CF4%3dRoyal%2bEngineers%26MSAV%3d1%26u idh%3df62%26pcat%3d39%26fh%3d0%26h%3d514306%26reco ff%3d83%2b84%26ml_rpos%3d1&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true#?imageId=miuk1914h_132241-00383

I can't find him with this family on the censuses, so he's still a bit of a mystery, but I just wondered how usual it was to be commemorated twice, in your own home village and your wife's.

Merry
02-03-16, 20:08
This seems to be the family:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=uki1891&gss=angs-d&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&MS_AdvCB=1&gsfn=edith&gsfn_x=1&gsln=dawson&gsln_x=1&mswpn__ftp_x=1&msbdy=1882&msbdy_x=1&msbdp=2&msbpn__ftp_x=1&gskw=kirkby&gskw_x=1&_83004002_x=1&cpxt=1&cp=11&catbucket=rstp&MSAV=2&uidh=672&pcat=35&fh=0&h=15502149&recoff=&ml_rpos=1

Edith Dawson married John Carmichael Bland and they are tog in 1911. She is b Kirkby Lonsdale 1882 which matches the 1891 census with the right mother and brother called William and sisters with the right names and ages.

Anstey Nomad
02-03-16, 20:45
Lovely, thanks.

But the two war memorials thing?

Merry
02-03-16, 20:48
I didn't answer that because I don't know :D

kiterunner
02-03-16, 21:49
I think it's quite common, AN.

Shona
03-03-16, 10:34
Not unusual. One of my great-uncle is on two, but the most I have come across is a chap mentioned on at least six - village memorial in birth village, school memorial, Methodist church memorial, village in which he lived before enlisting, a work (railway) memorial and a church memorial which has individual wall-mounted plaques naming ships which were sunk and the names of the crew who perished. The church covered the port from which he sailed. He's also on one of the three memorials (Chatham, Plymouth, Portsmouth) to men lost at sea.

One of my uncles wrote a recently published book detailing the men on a village memorial. About half are named on at least one other memorials.

There was a lot of politics involved in who was named on memorials. Some men were never commemorated, for example.

Anstey Nomad
03-03-16, 10:42
Thanks - I'd not come across it before and I'm not sure at this point that he had any real connection with Walesby other than being married to Auntie Annie for the last eight months before his death.

It's also occurred to me overnight that he is actually commemorated in three places, because he's on one of the CWGC memorials in France as well.

Shona
03-03-16, 16:06
Looking at his service records, he married Annie at Southwell parish church and enlisted in Retford (according to Soldiers Who Died in the Great War). Although he gave his address as being Kirkby Lonsdale when he enlisted, the address of his next of kin in Kirkby Lonsdale is crossed out and Walesby, Ollerton inserted. If he enlisted in Retford and a new next of kin address added, he implies he had moved to Nottinghamshire. Also, his sister Annie Nice was also living in Walesby, according the list of family members supplied to the military following William's death.

The fact he appears on the Walesby memorial isn't odd. I've found named in memorials of people who had quite loose links with the place in question.

Janet in Yorkshire
07-03-16, 19:00
Nine men are commemorated on the war memorial in my village. So far, I have discovered that six of them are also commemorated on war memorials in other villages. I think at least one more is probably duplicated, but will need to go for a drive out to investigate.
The money for war memorials was raised by public subscription and each local committee decided on which names would be inscribed. All nine men on our memorial had relatives living in the village at the time the memorial was being planned.

Jay