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I have recently come across a book that once belonged to Philip Axon.
I would like to try and see if I can return it to a relative and would appreciate any help finding anyone who is tracing this family.
The book is The Life of Viscount Nelson and was published in 1806. The front of the book has a little stuck on label saying Philip Axon 1806.
In the back of the book, there is a list of children:
Eliza Ann Axon
Born June 3rd 1810, quarter past 9 in the morning
Matilda Axon
Born May 11th 1813, quarter past 11 in the evening.
Died June 12th 1813
Mary Axon
Born May 21st 1814, quarter past 6 in the evening.
Died November 23rd 1817
Matilda Axon
Born February 24th 1817, 36 minutes past 8 in the morning.
Joseph Holt Axon
Born July 1st 1819, half past eight in the evening.
William Axon
Born June 14th 1824, half past 10 in the evening.
A quick look on ancestry suggests they were from Manchester (baptisms of Joseph Holt and one of the Matildas), and that Philip's wife was Alice.
However, I cannot see anything else.
Any help gratefully received!
(Will try and put some photographs on!)
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Well, I'm not finding the sort of stuff you need, but this is Philip with his second wife in 1841:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8978/LANHO107_572_573-0387?pid=6060676&backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2f%2fcg i-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3duki1841%26gss%3da ngs-d%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dgrace%26gsfn_x%3d1%26mswpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msb dy%3d1769%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp%3d10%26msbpn__ftp_ x%3d1%26gskw%3dmanchester%26gskw_x%3d1%26_83004002 _x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp%26M SAV%3d2%26uidh%3d672%26pcat%3d35%26fh%3d2%26h%3d60 60676%26recoff%3d6%26ml_rpos%3d3&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true
(bottom of right-hand page)
The marriage:
Marriage: 20 Nov 1836 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Philip Axon - Shuttle Maker, Widower, this Parish
Grace Darley - (X), Widow, this Parish
Witness: John Porter, (X); Charles Andrew
Married by Banns by: Henry Fielding M.A. Vicar
Register: Marriages 1836 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 966, Entry 2894
Source: LDS Film 1545611
I did a Google search "Philip Axon" 1775..1875 that brought this back:
https://books.google.com/books?id=ZxpKAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA2469&dq=%22Philip+Axon%22+1775..1875&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjr27KZhMvKAhXEFR4KHdU7DnkQ6AEIHDAA#v=on epage&q=%22Philip%20Axon%22%201775..1875&f=false
So have you got Ancestry? This looks like the right family, Tom.
Philip Axon - Stockport (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=BMD_BIRTH&gss=angs-c&new=1&rank=1&gsfn=Philip&gsfn_x=1&gsln=Axon&gsln_x=1&mswpn__ftp=Stockport%2c+Cheshire%2c+England&mswpn=82512&mswpn_PInfo=8-%7c0%7c0%7c3257%7c3251%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c5257%7c82512% 7c0%7c&ossyear=1775&ossyearend=1875&mscng=Eliza+Ann&mscng1=Matilda&mscng2=Mary&mscng3=Joseph+Holt&mscng4=William&cpxt=1&cp=4&catbucket=r&MSAV=1&uidh=9uh&so=2)
Thank you both. I couldn't immediately see anyone researching the family, but thought if I put the information here that one day someone might pick it up through Google.
I have the UK ancestry Janet, but your link takes me to the US site and it won't let me see anything.
Shame he couldn't have waited a few more months to get married! Would have been interesting to know who his father was.
And if he hadn't died before 1851 you could have had a birthplace. (Grace is on it, born in Yorkshire somewhere)
And if he hadn't died before 1851 you could have had a birthplace. (Grace is on it, born in Yorkshire somewhere)
Have just found that. Don't know of anywhere called Eaton Yorkshire. There is Heaton, which is part of Bradford.
Have found a couple of public trees with him on ancestry, but they don't have any details about his children. Might message the owners tomorrow to see their link. They could be descended from one of his siblings.
The private tree with him in looks to have 300,000+ people on it, so won't contact them.
Of the public trees, one has 21,000+ but another looks promising. The tree owner is xxx Axon and only has 50 people in their tree. Last log in was a year ago. Worth a message though.
Fingers crossed!
In case anyone related to Alice is interested, her surname seems to be Bowker
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2967/40366_293724-00835/844717?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk% 2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dmanchestermarriagescathedral% 26so%3d2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dphil*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3da*on%26gsln_x%3 d1%26mswpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msgdy%3d1810%26msgdy_x%3d1 %26msgdp%3d10%26msgpn__ftp_x%3d1%26gskw%3dalice%26 gskw_x%3d1%26_83004002_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11% 26catbucket%3drstp%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3d672&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
Phillip Axton 16 Jul 1809 Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George Alice Bowker
There is a burial of an Alice Axon on 11 August 1833 in Cheetham. She was 47. Therefore born c1786.
Also, there is a baptism of a Philip Axson on 30 May 1784 at St James, Didsbury. Son of John Axson of Didsbury.
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2959/40364_633870_2626-00018/2030423?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dmanchesterearlybmdcro%26so%3d 2%26pcat%3d37%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26gsfn%3dphilip%26gsfn_x%3d NN%26gsln%3daxon%26gsln_x%3dNN%26MSAV%3d1%26cpxt%3 d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp%26uidh%3dfpy&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
I recall an actor who died a few years back named John Axon - think he was from Manchester or Stockport. Perhaps there are members of his family who would be interested?
Oh - look what I found. 'The Ballad of John Axon' which was broadcast in 1958 - lyrics and music by Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seegar. The actor who died a few years ago named John Axon was named after the chap in the ballad who was his grandfather. http://www.setintosong.co.uk/downloads/PDF/rb_website_john_axon.pdf
If nothing comes from contacting tree owners on Ancestry or people picking up the name on here via search engines, how about contacting the Manchester Evening News or another local paper in the area? Local papers ove subjects like this.
Have just found that. Don't know of anywhere called Eaton Yorkshire. There is Heaton, which is part of Bradford.
What about Heaton Norris, Stockport?
Thanks Shona. Good to add a few extra details.
Could be Heaton Norris. 1851 census does say Yorkshire, but could be a mistake.
I'm sure they both said Yes in 1841.
Have just been checking, and yes they did. This was the second wife anyway, who was a widow at marriage so would need some extra work to find her maiden name.
Daft old me. Yes it was Yorkshire. Have scribbled note that Philip's first wife's maiden name was Holt. Where did I find that?
One of their sons had Holt as a middle name, so I am sure the surname Holt will make an appearance somewhere.
Merry found that Alice's maiden name was Bowker.
This is a lovely thing you are doing Tom and I love that whoever gets the book will get a good whack of the tree done for them as well. :)
I've gone round in circles potentially finding and then not finding Philip, Alice and Grace in earlier records. so I'm switching back to their descendants (or rather, the descendants of Philip and Alice!). More going round in circles has shown me the only one who there seems to be a chance of following is Joseph b 1819 Manchester.
1841 he is with Philip and Grace at 2 Foundry Street (see post #3 above), aged 20, born in county, occ calico printer.
1851 (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/30859_A008143-00302/11650868?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1851%26so%3d2%26pcat%3dROO T_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3djos*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dax*n%26gsln_x%3d 1%26mswpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msbdy%3d1819%26msbdy_x%3d1% 26msbdp%3d5%26msbpn__ftp_x%3d1%26gskw_x%3d1%26_830 04002_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drst p%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3d672&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults) He's still at 2 Foundry St aged 32 wood turner b Manchester, unmarried. In 1851 there's another Joseph (Josh) Axon b Manchester, married but not with his wife, aged 36, living in Saford, occ journeyman mechanic, so we need not to get the two mixed up!
1861 the Salford chap is still in Salford, but this time he's listed as unmarried (!) aged 46 and an iron roller turner. I can't see Philip's son on this census, so let's hope he isn't dead! (I'm typing this as I go along, so I don't know what's going to happen!)
1871 and 1881 I can't see either Joseph, so would have looked at the death indexes but in 1891 who is this (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/6598/LANRG12_3189_3191-0047/21926706?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1891%26so%3d2%26pcat%3d35% 26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3djos*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dax*n%26gsln_x%3d 1%26mswpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msbdy%3d1819%26msbdy_x%3d1% 26msbdp%3d5%26msbpn__ftp_x%3d1%26gskw_x%3d1%26_830 04002_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drst p%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3d672&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults)? Joseph aged 70 born Manchester, shopkeeper, widower with three daughters, Mary A 32, Sarah E 26 and Hannah (now Mrs Roberts) aged 37 all born Manchester. If this is the right family I don't envy you looking for a Roberts descendant! lol And where were they before 1891?
Time to post this and then carry on before I accidentally delete the post!
Bother, I think this is that family in 1871:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7619/LANRG10_3986_3988-0019/5022162?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1871%26so%3d2%26pcat%3dROO T_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsln%3dax*n%26gsln_x%3d1%26mswpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msbd y%3d1871%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp%3d10%26msbpn__ftp_x %3d1%26gskw%3dchorlton%26gskw_x%3d1%26_83004002_x% 3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp%26MSAV %3d2%26uidh%3d672&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
the father is b Withington and I'm sure I've seen him on the same census as Philip's Joseph in 1851. Just checking....
Yep, he's on the 1851 census with the same wife, so def a different person. Back to the death records.....
My money is here:
Deaths Mar 1855
Axon Joseph Manchester 8d 202
and if that's him he was probably still unmarried (no Lancs marriages 1851-55)
so probably no descendants. I can't find any sign of his brother William nor the potentially surviving girls. so am stuck :o
My money is here:
Deaths Mar 1855
Axon Joseph Manchester 8d 202
and if that's him he was probably still unmarried (no Lancs marriages 1851-55)
so probably no descendants. I can't find any sign of his brother William nor the potentially surviving girls. so am stuck :o
That 1855 death shouldn't be him as the man was aged 46 (Lancs BMD)
I looked at deaths 1851-71 on Lancs BMD but there were no obvious matches.
Whilst I was looking at Lancs BMD I looked for the deaths of Philip and Grace. He was recorded as 64 in 1847 (60 in 1841) and she was 82 in 1851 (the same age as she was on the 1851 census, but she was rounded to 65 in 1841).
Thanks Merry. Hopefully one day, someone will pick this up via Google. I shall keep the book on my bookcase until then!
:)
There's this possible death, giving Joseph more time for marriage and children (if it's him lol)
Deaths Sep 1867
Axson Joseph 45 Manchester 8d 144
There is a burial for him here (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2963/40364_633870_2976-00088/647617?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk% 2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dmanchesterburialscro%26so%3d2 %26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsln%3dax*on%26gsln_x%3d1%26mswpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msd dy%3d1867%26msddy_x%3d1%26msdpn__ftp_x%3d1%26gskw_ x%3d1%26_83004002_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26cat bucket%3drstp%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3d672&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults) but I can't find this man in 1861. I've found 24 Lower Byrom Street but, probably not surprisingly, he isn't there.
I think that burial is for the 'other' Joseph (the one two years older who was a mechanic on one of the censuses). In 1861 he was an unmarried lodger in Salford (post #20) and the same Q as the census he married his landlady
(Lancs BMD) 1861 Q2:
AXSON Joseph DODD Mary - Salford St Simon Salford
In 1871 there is a widow named Mary Axon aged 54 b Ireland at Under 8, Lower Byrom Street, Manchester who I'm imagining is Mary Dodd, widow of Joseph and the head of house in 1861 as her age and birthplace match up.
So, I still don't know what happed to Joseph Holt Axon. Perhaps he emigrated and had a dozen children! :D
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