Help reading German Evangelical Record

[Tom Tom]

Hello.

I am looking at the baptism records for German Evangelical Church in London.

I have found my relative's baptism there, Wilhelm Johann Gustav Stelling, but am struggling to get the information from the page.

His parents were Christian Wilhelm August Stelling and Marianne Christina Stelling, formerly Stelling.

It is entry number 667 on this page on ancestry:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1906/31846_213321-00531/58566?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2 fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dlondonnonconformist%26so%3d2% 26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dchristian%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dstelling%26 gsln_x%3d1%26mswpn__ftp_x%3d1%26gskw_x%3d1%26_8300 4002_x%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp%26MSAV%3d2 %26uidh%3dfhu%26cpxt%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

I think it might say that his Father was from Nimberg, but I am not sure. Nimberg is on the French/German border.

Thanks for looking.

[Shona]

OH, who is a dab hand with German, says its Nimburg - which is between the Black Forest and Kaiserstuhl. The ''a' after Nimburg is an abbreviated of 'am' which means 'on the' or 'at the', but he can't make out the squiggle after with any certainty. OH says he reckons it is referring to where the father is from.

[Tom Tom]

Thanks Shona. It doesn't say anything else of note does it?

[Shona]

Although OH is a dab hand at modern languages, interpreting handwriting is not a skill. We can't decide on the word after a/??. OH thinks the word begins with a Z. I thought a G. We have had a look at the map (during which I was told all about Kaiserstuhl and how it has an early spring), but we couldn't find anything which was a match. Sorry.

[kiterunner]

I think it is Nienburg a/W = am Weser. Compare that letter with the W of Wilhelm.

[kiterunner]

Also, it says that the parents were the godparents or sponsors.

[kiterunner]

His brother is no 602 on here:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1906/31846_213321-00527/58503?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2 fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dLondonNonconformist%26gss%3ds fs28_ms_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_Adv CB%3d1%26gsfn%3dchr*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dst%253f lling%26gsln_x%3d1%26msbpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msdpn__ftp _x%3d1%26msgpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1%26msf ng_x%3d1%26msfns_x%3d1%26msmng_x%3d1%26msmns_x%3d1 %26mssng0_x%3d1%26mssns0_x%3d1%26_82004400-n__ftp_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

[kiterunner]

Ah, I thought the word beginning with H after the Nienburg a/W was the father's occupation, but looking at the other baptism, I realise it is Hannover, so it says Nienburg a/W, Hannover. I was hoping it would say something different for the mother's birthplace on the brother's baptism, but it still looks like "von hier" to me, which surely can't be right!

[kiterunner]

Oh, o.k., Marianne's birthplace is Camberwell, London, on the 1891 census, so I guess it really does say "von hier" on those baptisms.
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/6598/LNDRG12_169_171-0407/8014529?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1891%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_r_db %26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3dfr*d *r*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dst*l*ng%26gsln_x%3d1%26m sbpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn__ftp_x% 3d1%26msmng%3dmar*%26msmng_x%3d1%26msmns_x%3d1%26m sbng0_x%3d1%26msbns0_x%3d1%26mssng0_x%3d1%26mssns0 _x%3d1%26mscng0_x%3d1%26mscns0_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26 uidh%3dvm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

[crawfie]

I think the last two words in the parents box are "Beide evang.", both evangelist, and I think the notes in the margin are a count of children baptised in the year and where, plus a reference to the previous child they had baptised, No 602 as Kite found. (M6 - 6th male baptised, K12 12th baptism in the church. Private baptisms are H, presumably House)

[Tom Tom]

Thanks everyone. Shame there are only the two coming up. Will have to have a search as I bet some are mistranscribed with such different writing.