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Margaret in Burton
05-01-16, 14:45
I'm looking for the family in 1851, I have them in 1861.
RG 9; Piece: 1908; Folio: 15; Page: 2
The names are John Dawson b 1822 and Rebecca b 1823 plus daughter Anne born 1850. They are from Penkridge in Staffordshire. Ancestry has mistrancribed the names and place and I have sent in corrections.
kiterunner
05-01-16, 15:30
Is their marriage John Dawson / Rebecca Wall 5 Nov 1846 at St Peter, Wolverhampton? FamilySearch gives the father's names as J Dawson and S Wall, and has baptisms for John Dawsen 9 May 1847 and Anne Dawson 7 Oct 1849 at Bednall (both children of John and Rebecca.)
So could this be Anne in 1851, with the wrong surname?
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/STSHO107_2016_2016-0039/17226109?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1851%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_r_db %26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3dann* %26gsfn_x%3d1%26msbdy%3d1850%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp %3d1%26msbpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn __ftp_x%3d1%26msfng_x%3d1%26msfns_x%3d1%26msmng_x% 3d1%26msmns_x%3d1%26msbng0_x%3d1%26mssng0_x%3d1%26 mssns0_x%3d1%26mscng0_x%3d1%26gskw%3dbedn*l%26gskw _x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
Gipsy Green, Bednall, Staffordshire
Samuel Wall Head Mar 55 Farm Lab Stafford Penkridge
Hannah Do Wife Mar 62 Do Gnosall
Joseph Do Son U 35 Ag Lab Do Cannock
Robert Do Son U 25 Do Do Do Penkridge
Elizabeth Do Daur U 19 Do Do
William Do Grandson 8 Do Do
Ann Do Grandaur 1 Do Do
Margaret in Burton
05-01-16, 15:36
Is their marriage John Dawson / Rebecca Wall 5 Nov 1846 at St Peter, Wolverhampton? FamilySearch gives the father's names as J Dawson and S Wall, and has baptisms for John Dawsen 9 May 1847 and Anne Dawson 7 Oct 1849 at Bednall (both children of John and Rebecca.)
So could this be Anne in 1851, with the wrong surname?
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/STSHO107_2016_2016-0039/17226109?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1851%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_r_db %26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3dann* %26gsfn_x%3d1%26msbdy%3d1850%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp %3d1%26msbpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn __ftp_x%3d1%26msfng_x%3d1%26msfns_x%3d1%26msmng_x% 3d1%26msmns_x%3d1%26msbng0_x%3d1%26mssng0_x%3d1%26 mssns0_x%3d1%26mscng0_x%3d1%26gskw%3dbedn*l%26gskw _x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
Gipsy Green, Bednall, Staffordshire
Samuel Wall Head Mar 55 Farm Lab Stafford Penkridge
Hannah Do Wife Mar 62 Do Gnosall
Joseph Do Son U 35 Ag Lab Do Cannock
Robert Do Son U 25 Do Do Do Penkridge
Elizabeth Do Daur U 19 Do Do
William Do Grandson 8 Do Do
Ann Do Grandaur 1 Do Do
Yes, that's the marriage I found. So, Ann was with her maternal grandparents. I've tried Ancestry and FMP and I can't see them in 1851 at all. Must be really badly mistranscribed.
I have found them on the 1861, 1871 and 1881. John dies in 1890 and I've found Rebecca in 1891 and 1901 and her death in 1901.
Not getting anywhere sorry.
kiterunner
05-01-16, 15:41
On FreeREG there is the burial of a John Dawson, age 2, 3 Aug 1849 at Penkridge, abode Warren House. They also have a full transcription of Anne's baptism at Bednall, with abode Warren House.
Margaret in Burton
05-01-16, 15:48
Yes, I've just this minute found that and more on the Staffordshire PR's on FMP. Another child Emma Jane died aged 3 years 4 months too.
Margaret in Burton
05-01-16, 15:49
Not getting anywhere sorry.
Me neither Julie
:mad:
Here you go......
HO107 piece 2014 folio 554 page 7
This might be them. There is a Rebecca from Penkridge with husband John in Woodhouses. Surname transcribed as Krewson.
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/STSHO107_2014_2014-0771?pid=8497277&backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2f%2fcg i-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3duki1851%26gss%3da ngs-d%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26_F0005C4F%3d2014%2b%26_F0 005C4F_x%3d1%26_F0005906%3d7%26_F0005906_x%3d1%26_ F0005E11%3d554%26_F0005E11_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh %3dfpy%26pcat%3d35%26fh%3d6%26h%3d8497277%26recoff %3d%26ml_rpos%3d7&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true
EDIT: Snap, Rick. Think we have the same record.
Just had a look at the map - Woodhouses isn't to far from Penkridge.
This might be them. There is a Rebecca from Penkridge with husband John in Woodhouses. Surname transcribed as Krewson.
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/STSHO107_2014_2014-0771?pid=8497277&backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2f%2fcg i-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3duki1851%26gss%3da ngs-d%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26_F0005C4F%3d2014%2b%26_F0 005C4F_x%3d1%26_F0005906%3d7%26_F0005906_x%3d1%26_ F0005E11%3d554%26_F0005E11_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh %3dfpy%26pcat%3d35%26fh%3d6%26h%3d8497277%26recoff %3d%26ml_rpos%3d7&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true
EDIT: Snap, Rick. Think we have the same record.
Just had a look at the map - Woodhouses isn't to far from Penkridge.
Yup - Krewson on Ancestry, Rawson on FMP !!
Margaret in Burton
05-01-16, 21:03
Thank you Rick and Shona
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