Alice Flack

[Margaret in Burton]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as

Alice Flack

Date and place of birth

17 Novenber 1847 at 87 Northgate Street, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk

Names of parents

Thomas Flack (http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3637) and Mary Ann Harber (http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3944)

Date and place of baptism

Thanks to Kiterunner - 1 May 1864 at St Peter's, London Docks, Tower Hamlets. definitely her, her parents are named and her fathers occupation is correct. Alice may have been working in London in 1864 in service.

Details of each of his or her marriages

28 September 1874 to William Mortlock (http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2437) at St Mary's, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk

Occupation(s)

Nurse Maid in 1861 and Cook in 1871 before her marriage

Military service

none

Addresses where they lived - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on.

1851, 87 Northgate St, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
1861, 52 Abbeygate Street, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk (employed as a nursemaid)
1864, 87 Grafton Street, London (address on baptism - LMA archives on Ancestry)
1871, Plash Wood, Haughley, Suffolk (employed as a Cook)
1875 - 1879, Stapenhill, Derbyshire
1881, 178 Thornley Street, Burton on Trent, Staffordshire
1891, 178 Thornley Street, Burton on Trent, Staffordshire
1901, 178 Thornley Street, Burton on Trent, Staffordshire
1911, 178 Thornley Street, Burton on Trent, Staffordshire
1925, 178 Thornley Street, Burton on Trent, Staffordshire

Date, place and cause of death

15 March 1925 at 178 Thornley Street, Burton on Trent, Staffordshire. cause - Bronchitis and Cardiac Failure

Date and place of burial / cremation.

buried St John the Divine, Horninglow, Burton on Trent, Staffordshire

Details of will / administration of their estate

Unknown

Memorial inscription

there is a stone but it is broken and in a very overgrown part of the churchyard


The 1901 census decribes her as an invalid with a nervous debility. An older cousin has told me that she was told that Alice took to her bed after a supposed affair by her husband to prevent him leaving her. I don't know if this is true, but it worked.


Link to daughter: Alice Jane Mortlock (http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=10863&highlight=alice+jane+mortlock)


http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu326/margharrison/FlackAlice.png

[kiterunner]

She seems to have been baptised 1st May 1864 at St Peter's, Stepney, London. Date of birth given as 17 Nov 1846 and parents' names as Thomas and Mary Anne, according to the IGI. *off to check LMA records on ancestry*

[kiterunner]

Yes, it's on ancestry - Saint Peter, London Docks:
1864 May 1st, born Nov 17th 1846, Alice, parents Thomas and Mary Anne Flack, abode 81 (or possibly 87?) Grafton Street, father's occupation Brick(?) Maker.

Did you know she had lived in London, Margaret?

[Margaret in Burton]

That can't be her Kate. I have her birth cert. The baptism you have found is a year before her birth.


EDIT

Sorry, read it wrong, its 1864.

Off to look

[Margaret in Burton]

Thomas was a brush maker

[Margaret in Burton]

This is very strange.

Mary Ann (the mother) died in 1857 and Thomas remarried in 1861 to Frances Middleditch. I have both Mary Ann's death cert and the marriage cert to Frances. All of this happened in Bury St Edmunds. That baptism for Alice doesn't mention the mother was deceased.

There are three more children that I have found to Thomas and Mary Ann that I can't find baptisms for. Thomas b 1841, Alfred b 1844 and Walter b 1851

[Margaret in Burton]

I suppose Thomas remembered Alice's birthday but got the year wrong. She herself was always contradicting herself in censuses later in life.

[kiterunner]

Thomas may not have been there at all when Alice was baptised - she could have gone to live in London for a few years to work and got herself baptised while she was there.

[Margaret in Burton]

Thomas may not have been there at all when Alice was baptised - she could have gone to live in London for a few years to work and got herself baptised while she was there.

Good point Kate, she was in service in 1861 and 1871.

[Margaret in Burton]

Kate

Thank you for finding Alice.

What on earth made you look in London though? It would never have occured to me.

[kiterunner]

I just put the names in on the IGI without selecting a county, Margaret.

[Margaret in Burton]

I just put the names in on the IGI without selecting a county, Margaret.


That still wouldn't have occured to me, I had no reason to assume they ventured out of Suffolk.

Well done Kate and thank you