Samuel Hughes Atkinson 1799-1850

[Merry]

I'm posting this for vita!

As you may remember, vita has been fighting with her Headland/Atkinson tree for a long time. Some of the Headlands have the middle name Hughes, but we had yet to find the name Hughes further back in the family. I came across the above named man and before I started investigating him I thought he was going to give us a breakthrough, however he hasn't helped as much as I would have liked, hence this post, added in the hope others will spot something I've missed.

There is so much info on the Headlands/Atkinsons on this forum already I'm going to try and put the relevant pieces here to save endless searches of the other threads. That will make this post long, so apologies! I have not included all the research I've done on marriage witnesses, spouses, in-laws and other hangers-on etc so PLEASE ASK if you want to know about any of them as I may well have searched already. Here we go.........

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Christiana Headland nee Atkinson was bap 1788 at St Andrew's Holborn, dau of Thomas and Mary Ann Atkinson of Dean St.

Likely Atkinson sibling baptisms at St Andrew's Holborn are:

Thomas Deverell (1786 Castle St, bur 1791 St Luke's Finsbury) << not on other threads
Maria Ann (1790 Dean St)
Thomas (1792 Dean St)
James (1794 Hand Court)

We don't really know anything more about the parents, Thomas and Mary (Ann) Atkinson and I've not done anything about that name Deverell yet, so that might make another thread.

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This is what I've found about Samuel Hughes Atkinson in life event order (not the order I found it!):

Born about 1799, probably in Middlesex

1841 census Manchester Street St Pancras
Samuel Atkinson 40 turner Yes
Elizabeth Huggins 45 FS No
Rebecca Andrews 13 FS No

15 Nov 1845 - Married Catherine Webb nee Chase at St Pancras Chapel. He is a bachelor, occ turner, the son of Samuel Atkinson, tailor. Witnesses are Edward Michael Purcell and Emma Eliza Headland (she is a dau of Thomas Headland and Christiana Atkinson)

Likely death reg:

Deaths Dec 1850
ATKINSON Samuel Wandsworth 4 421

Burial:

All Souls, Kensal Green, 15 Oct 1850 Samuel Atkinson aged 51. Two addresses listed: Clapham Road, Lambeth and Chads Row, Kings Cross

Will signed 4 Apr 1850 and proved 1 Apr 1851. Highlights:

Address; St Chad’s Well, Gray’s Inn Road
Occ: turner
Executors/beneficiaries
Exor Richard Watts of Tonbridge St, New Road, Middlesex, corn chandler
Exor Thomas (Hughes) Headland of Great Sutton St Clerkenwell, Middlesex, silversmith (‘Hughes’ is included in the probate)
Beneficiary Mary Ann Andrews, mother (annuity £15 pa)
James Atkinson, brother (£200)
Emma Eliza Headland , niece (now residing with me) (£300 plus rest and residue)
Charlotte Collins, niece (now also residing with me) << One of Emma Eliza's sisters (£100)
Christiana Headland, sister (£200)

There is no mention of Samuel's wife in the will so I presumed she had pre-deceased him. However, she is on the 1851 census:

9 Caroline Mews, St George Hanover Square
Catherine Atkinson widow 45 late licenced victualler b Kent Whitfield

Burial:
17 Nov 1852 at St Mary’s Paddington Green Catherine Atkinson aged 47 Address Gloucester Terrace, Vauxhall Road

Will signed 17 Dec 1851. She leaves everything to her brother, Cornelius Chase.

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So, Samuel Hughes Atkinson is the brother of Christiana. The problems, as I see them, are:

Christiana's father is definitely Thomas Atkinson (her bap and the baps of her Headland children in 1806/8) but Samuel says his father is Samuel Atkinson (A mistake on the marriage cert?)

I cannot find a baptism for Samuel.

As Samuel left money to brother James (b 1794 Holborn?) then one would expect James to show up on the 1851 census unless he died between April 1850 and April 1851. If he died within those dates he didn’t die in London and if he lived to 1851 why can’t I find him?

If Mary Ann Andrews is Samuel’s mother why can’t I find a second marriage for her to this mystery Mr Andrews?

if Mary Ann (mother of Samuel) is the same woman who was mother of Christiana she would be pretty old by 1850 when she is included in her son's will. Perhaps Thomas Atkinson married two Mary Ann’s? If Mary Ann lived until 1851 she is being elusive!

[kiterunner]

Do you know whether Thomas Atkinson was a tailor, Merry?

[Merry]

No, we don't know that yet. The only ref we have for him is at the baps of his children and grandchildren and his occ is not mentioned.

I have tried to find a will without success. (Have read a lot of PCC ones 1793-1850!!)

[Merry]

I did try to make the Samuel who married in 1845 be the son of Christiana's brother who died in 1850, especially when Catherine didn't appear in the will of her supposed husband and meaning the marriage cert would have the right name. Trouble is, the only Samuel Atkinson, turner, I could find to be the 1845 bridegroom was the one aged 40 in 1841.

(just popping out to collect my dau. Should be back in 15 mins or so)

[kiterunner]

Could this be Mary Ann's second marriage?
LMA records on ancestry (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1623/31280_194438-00169/1730777?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fgst%3d-6&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults)

12 Oct 1829 at Ickenham, Middlesex, to Abraham Andrews, widower.
She is down as Mary Ann Atkins, widow, but has signed as Atkinson. Witnesses Mary Sewell and Adam(? or maybe Willam?) Sewell.

[kiterunner]

Abraham Andrews was buried 3 May 1846 at Ickenham, age 46.
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1559/31280_194438-00198/9313911?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dlmadeaths%26so%3d2%26pcat%3dR OOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3dabr *%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dandrew*%26gsln_x%3d1%26msw pn__ftp_x%3d1%26msddy%3d1839%26msddy_x%3d1%26msddp %3d10%26msdpn__ftp_x%3d1%26gskw_x%3d1%26_83004002_ x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d4%26catbucket%3drstp%26MSA V%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

If I'm not barking up the wrong tree entirely, Mary Ann would most likely be Samuel's stepmother rather than his mother.

[kiterunner]

Hmm, this (1841 census) must be the Abraham who died in 1846, but his wife is Diania (sic):

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8978/MDXHO107_656_657-0163/6951539?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1841%26so%3d2%26pcat%3d184 1UKI%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dandr*%26gsln_x%3d1%26msbpn__ft p_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1%26gs kw%3dickenham%26gskw_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

But they seem to have married in 1826, so this isn't the same Abraham who married Mary Ann.

So I take back my "stepmother" comment!

I will look some more later but have to go out now.

[Merry]

lol When I saw you mention the name Sewell (the witness 1829) I thought "Oh, no" as I think Sewell to Andrews or Sewell to Atkinson was one of the endless marriages I looked at when I'd decided Mary Ann had been married three times (don't ask! lol).

I'm just preparing four different lunches for those of us in this house on different 'time zones' (don't ask, again!) but will be back to look at that Abraham marriage properly soon.

[vita]

Hmm, this (1841 census) must be the Abraham who died in 1846, but his wife is Diania (sic):

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8978/MDXHO107_656_657-0163/6951539?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1841%26so%3d2%26pcat%3d184 1UKI%26gss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dandr*%26gsln_x%3d1%26msbpn__ft p_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1%26gs kw%3dickenham%26gskw_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

But they seem to have married in 1826, so this isn't the same Abraham who married Mary Ann.

So I take back my "stepmother" comment!

I will look some more later but have to go out now.

Glad of that, Kite! As an interested onlooker, I couldn't quite see it myself.

Re Thomas Atkinson being a tailor - makes perfect sense as Christiana was

a seamstress & all her girls were either seamstresses, milliners or both. But

then I believe it was a popular occupation for young ladies at that time, so

could mean nothing at all.

[Merry]

I have been looking at Abraham and Mary again, but not enough time now. Have to go out again, but will have a proper look later.

[Merry]

Grrrr, getting nowhere fast! lol I keep thinking maybe I should look for James again, but I've said that before.

[kiterunner]

Found this household in 1841:
1841 census on ancestry (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8978/MDXHO107_656_657-0285/6955312?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1841%26gss%3dangs-d%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dmary%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dandr*w*%26gsln_x %3d1%26msbdy%3d1776%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp%3d10%26m sbpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn__ftp_x% 3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5%26gl%3d%26gst%3d%26hc% 3d10%26fh%3d20%26fsk%3dBEDmZmYIgAAjEgADqgc-61-&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults)

Ruislip Common, Ruislip, Middlesex
Abraham Andrew 65 Ag Lab N
Mary Do 70 Yes
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James Shewell 8 N

Abraham's surname could be Andrews or Andrew, it's hard to make it out. And I'm not sure about James's surname; ancestry have transcribed it as Shurvell.

Ickenham and Ruislip are pretty near to each other.

[Merry]

Well done Kate, that looks very hopeful.

I did think Abraham's signature looked more like Andrew than Andrews on the marriage entry. (I'm not saying his surname was actually Andrew, just that if he always wrote it the way it looks on the marriage entry it might easily be taken for Andrew).

1851:

Pinner Green, Pinner, Middlesex

Abraham Andrews Head Married 80 Agricultural Labourer b Woburn, Buckinghamshire
Mary Ann Andrews Wife Married 82 b Marylebone, Middlesex

1851 Census Andrews (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/BRKHO107_1700_1700-0169/3823426?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2f%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3duki1851%26gss%3da ngs-d%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn_x%3d1 %26gsln_x%3d1%26msbpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d 1%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1%26msfng_x%3d1%26msfns_x%3d1%2 6msmng_x%3d1%26msmns_x%3d1%26msbng0_x%3d1%26mssng0 _x%3d1%26mssns0_x%3d1%26mscng0_x%3d1%26_F0005C4F%3 d1700%26_F0005C4F_x%3d1%26_F0005E11%3d189%26_F0005 E11_x%3d1%26_F0005906%3d2%26_F0005906_x%3d1%26MSAV %3d2%26uidh%3d672%26pcat%3d35%26fh%3d0%26h%3d38234 26%26recoff%3d%26ml_rpos%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord)

[Merry]

Deaths Jun 1852
Andrews Abraham Hendon 3a 53


Deaths Dec 1854
Andrewes Mary Hendon 3a 73

[Merry]

Samuel Hughes Atkinson's burial gave two addresses, one of which was Clapham Road, Lambeth.

This Thomas Atkinson burial also says Clapham Road. I realise that could be a co-incidence, but worth investigating........


Thomas Atkinson bur 27 Aug 1824 at St Mary, Lambeth aged 60. Address Clapham Road.

[Merry]

Hmmm, In the London and County Directory of 1811 there's a Thomas Atkinson at Clapham Road but he's a gardener and florist. I'm pretty certain I've read a will for a Thomas Atkinson who was a nurseryman who died around 1824. I'm sure he was eliminated (apart from his occ), but I guess I'll have to go and find that again to see.............

[Merry]

Hmmm, the will I'd read was written 18 Mar 1824 and proved 23 Oct 1824. The testator was Thomas Atkinson, nurseryman and his wife was Elizabeth dec'd. He lived at Stockwell Surrey. So now I need to find his burial (if there's another one!) if I'm going to eliminate him!

Having looked at Clapham/Stockwell on a map, it looks very likely the widower of Elizabeth Atkinson is the one buried in August 1824. :o

If anyone wants to see the will it's here. (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/5111/40611_310409-00623/44732?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2 fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dcanturburyprerogativecourt%26 so%3d2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26 gsfn%3dtho*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3datkinson%26gsln_ x%3d1%26mswpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msddy%3d1824%26msddy_x% 3d1%26msddp%3d2%26msdpn__ftp_x%3d1%26gskw_x%3d1%26 _83004002_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3 drstp%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3d672&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults#?imageId=40611_31040 9-00623)

[Merry]

btw, when I was looking at that 1811 London directory I didn't see any Thomas Atkinsons listed as tailor or similar.

[vita]

Thanks Kite & Merry. You've probably already considered this, but could the 13 yr old

Rebecca Andrews who was with Samuel in Manchester Square 1841 be a clue?

[kiterunner]

I did try to trace her yesterday with no luck, Vita.

[Merry]

I looked at her too. I can't remember the exact details now, but I did see a servant or two aged 23 on the 1851 census who were born out of London and at that time dismissed them. I think they were born further away than Bucks, but I guess I should look again.

[vita]

I looked at her too. I can't remember the exact details now, but I did see a servant or two aged 23 on the 1851 census who were born out of London and at that time dismissed them. I think they were born further away than Bucks, but I guess I should look again.

I know the name's not that unusual but it sort of leapt out at me!

Thanks anyway - much appreciated.

[Merry]

One was Suffolk and the other Dorset.

I looked through the available baptism and marriage records without spotting anything helpful.

[vita]

Thanks Merry - didn't think it would have escaped your eagle eye!

[Merry]

I need help to eliminate this man from our enquiries.

We already know Thomas and Mary (Ann) Atkinson had a son James bap at Holborn in 1794, address Hand Court. We don't know if this is the same James mentioned in the 1850 will of his brother, Samuel Hughes Atkinson.

I said before that I couldn't find any James Atkinsons born London/Middlesex in 1851 who were old enough to be this James. It occurred to me that if James 1894 had died and a later child been given the same name I might need to be looking for someone born later. I've spent the morning finding and excluding various younger James Atkinsons, but then came across this one by accident. He is in one of the right places, but could be a bit too old! Anyway, I need some help with him.

I'm not comfortable with this marriage unless James and Sarah left the area for a while as there's a big gap before any baptisms::

22 Nov 1818 James Atkinson bachelor to Sarah Cripps spinster at St John the Baptist, Hillingdon. Banns. Witnesses Elizabeth Peacock and George Cripps (X)

Children's baptisms:

17 Aug 1828 at Uxbridge St Margaret, Frederick son of James and Sarah Atkinson of Hillingdon. Father's occ bricklayer

20 Jun 1830 at Uxbridge St Margaret, Sarah Anne dau of James and Sarah Atkinson of Hillingdon. Father's occ bricklayer

Burial:

5 Nov 1837 (transcribed as 1838 by Ancestry) Sarah Ann Atkinson of Hillingdon aged 7yrs 5mths

1841 census:

Uxbridge Moor Hillingdon
James Atkinson (Albinson on Ancestry) 55 bricklayer Yes
Sarah Atkinson 50 Yes
Frederick Atkinson 10 Yes
George Atkinson 5 Yes

1851 census:

I gave up reading the address and it's not on the description sheet for the district! Rabs**** Road, Hillingdon
James Atkinson (Jame Aspenson on Ancestry) head m 59 bricklayer b Middlesex Gt T**** Rd??
Sarah Atkinson wife m 61 laundress b Middlesex Hillingdon
Fredk Atkinson son unm 22 General Dealer b Middlesex Uxbridge Moor

The above don't look like people who have just received a legacy of £200 and things don't get better:

1861 census:

Uxbridge Union Workhouse, Hillingdon
James Atkinson Inmate m 72 bricklayer b Great T*** ??

and separately

Sarah Atkinson Inmate m 68 servant domestic b Hillingdon Middlesex


Deaths Sep 1864
Atkinson Sarah Uxbridge 3a 11

Deaths Dec 1866
Atkinson James 79 Uxbridge 3a 10

So, only on the 1851 census (where I first found this James) does he have an age recorded as close to the age of James b 1794. (we don't know that James 1794 was bap as a young baby, but probably)

Until I'd looked at the 1794 bap again, I'd forgotten that's the one with an amendment to it, changing the surname from Atkins to Atkinson etc. Odd that the marriage Kate found for a Mary Ann Atkins(on) to Abraham Andrews had the same 'mistake'.

Anyway, James (1794) was of Hand Court not Great T**?? (whatever). I couldn't find a better baptism for the bricklayer to positively eliminate him, so just keep going round in circles...........

[kiterunner]

There is a tiny street called Great Turnstile, WC1, in the London A-Z. I wonder if it used to be bigger? Anyway, it is just off High Holborn, so definitely worth looking into.

[kiterunner]

Oh, I had assumed that Hand Court wouldn't be in the A-Z but it actually is - and it is also off High Holborn, directly across from Great Turnstile!

[Merry]

Oooh, it's literally just across the road from Hand Court! (across High Holborn)

[Merry]

Snap! See, I just needed someone to read it! :rolleyes::)

[kiterunner]

I couldn't read what it said, so I just looked in the A-Z for streets beginning with Great T!

[Merry]

I couldn't read what it said, so I just looked in the A-Z for streets beginning with Great T!

Why didn't I think of that! lol The A-Z is within arms reach!

[Merry]

I seem to have lost the ability to highlight, but two red flashed on here:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/merry_monty_montgomery/Other%20Research/Holborn_zpsdb61bi9o.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/merry_monty_montgomery/media/Other%20Research/Holborn_zpsdb61bi9o.jpg.html)

1818 London Map

[vita]

Well done you two!