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William Mitchell was born in Lincoln c1842.
In 1891, he is with his wife Sarah and their children living at 23 Rugby Cottages, Grantham, Lincolnshire.
William Mitchell, head, married, 49, ironfounder, born Lincoln
Sarah Mitchell, wife, married, 50, born Scadwell, Northamptonshire
Edward Mitchell, son, single, 20, ironfounder, born Leicester
Alice Mitchell, dau, single, 19, cigar maker, born Barnsley
Harry Mitchell, son, single, 13, scholar, born Gainsborough
Louisa Bryan, visitor, widow, 55, living on her own mean, born Louth, Lincolnshire
They are at 20 Harrow Street, Grantham in 1881.
William Mitchell, head, married, 40, iron moulder in works, born Lincoln
Sarah Mitchell, wife, 39, married, born Scarwell, Northamptonshire
Alwyn E Mitchell, son 10 scholar, born Leicester
Alice Mitchell, dau, 8, scholar, born Barnsley
Harry Mitchell, son, 3, scholar, born Gainsborough
Sarah Dickenson, visitor, widow, 62, born Onclip (?), Leicestershire
I expected to find William Mitchell with Sarah in 1871, but no. He is with a different wife.
Rugby Cottages, Grantham
William Mitchell, head married, 31, iron moulder, born Lincoln
Mary A Mitchell, wife, married, 28, born Lincoln
In 1861, he is boarding in Lincoln - aged 21, single, recorded as an iron moulder and born in Lincoln.
I have found a marriage between William Mitchell and Mary Ann Cass. They were married at St Mary Magdalene, Lincoln, on 17 June 1861. His father is named as Christopher C Mitchell and her father is Thomas Case.
I have been looking for the following records without success:
1) A birth or baptism for William Mitchell, father's name Christopher, in Lincoln,
2) William Mitchell, born Lincoln, in 1851.
3) A death for May Ann Mitchell between 1861 and 1871.
4) The marriage between William Mitchell and Sarah unknown.
5) Births or baptisms for William and Sarah's three children - Alwyn/Edward born in Leicester c1871, Alice born in Barnsley c1873 and Harry born in Gainsborough c1878.
Can anyone find these records? I shall keep hunting in the meantime.
Found a marriage for a Sarah Dickenson and William Mitchell 1878 Grantham Lincs Dec qtr Vol 7a Page 940
(Going on the guess that the visitor might have been the wife, Sarah's mother)
There is a Sarah Dickenson in 1971 census, born 1841 Daventry, Northamptonshire (Scadwell is in the same parish). She is married, so if this is her, she was a widow when she married William Mitchell, so the visitor must have been her mother in law... or something. Or am I tying a big confused knot here? lol
There are quite a few deaths for Mary (Ann) Mitchell between 1861 and 1871. There is one for Stamford in 1865, which is fairly near Grantham. Difficult to pin down other than that.
kiterunner
02-06-15, 14:50
There is an Alice Mitchell birth reg Jul-Sep 1873 Barnsley.
kiterunner
02-06-15, 14:51
Shouldn't Mary Ann's death be between 1871 and 1881 (now 1871 and 1878 as Terri has found the second marriage), not 1861 and 1871?
There's an Alice Mitchell born Barnsley 1873 Sep qtr Vol 9c Page 142
kiterunner
02-06-15, 14:56
There is a Mary Ann Mitchell death in Gainsborough district Jul-Sep 1878, age 36.
Shouldn't Mary Ann's death be between 1871 and 1881 (now 1871 and 1878 as Terri has found the second marriage), not 1861 and 1871?
So Mary died after 1871, so any or all of the children might have been hers, rather than Sarah's. Odd that Mary and William seemed to have no living children between marriage in 1861 and 1871.
Shouldn't Mary Ann's death be between 1871 and 1881 (now 1871 and 1878 as Terri has found the second marriage), not 1861 and 1871?
Durr. Of course Mary Ann Mitchell nee Cass's death should be after 1871. Feeling fuzzy-brained today thanks to a stinker of a cold.
Who is the William Mitchell born 1851 Lincoln?
kiterunner
02-06-15, 15:16
Who is the William Mitchell born 1851 Lincoln?
I believe Shona means she wants to find her William Mitchell on the 1851 census.
kiterunner
02-06-15, 15:23
There's an Arthur Edward Mitchell birth registered Jul-Sep 1870 Leicester.
I believe Shona means she wants to find her William Mitchell on the 1851 census.
Aaah!!!
No sign - only a couple of Williams of the right age but not born in Lincoln and not with a father called Christopher.
Do we have the mother's r siblings' names, assuming father may have been dead.
kiterunner
02-06-15, 15:57
By the way, William's marriage to Sarah Dickenson is on FamilySearch: 26 Oct 1878 at Spittlegate, Lincolnshire, with his age given as 39 and father's name confirmed as Christopher Mitchell. Sarah's father's name is given as Edward Dickenson so it seems that either she wasn't a widow or both her maiden and first married names were Dickenson (if the Sarah who Terri found on the 1871 census was the right one).
By the way, William's marriage to Sarah Dickenson is on FamilySearch: 26 Oct 1878 at Spittlegate, Lincolnshire, with his age given as 39 and father's name confirmed as Christopher Mitchell. Sarah's father's name is given as Edward Dickenson so it seems that either she wasn't a widow or both her maiden and first married names were Dickenson (if the Sarah who Terri found on the 1871 census was the right one).
Interesting. Spittlegate is the the part of Grantham where the Mitchell family were living in 1871 (William and Mary Ann), 1881 (William, Sarah and children) and 1891 (ditto). Good detective work!
Groan .... still can't find William in 1851, nor can I find Christopher in 1841.
Can't find an appropriate Sarah Dickenson (or another Sarah Dickenson) of the right age in either 1861 or 1871
Think I've found Sarah (who married William Mitchell) in the 1851 census...in Melton Mowbray http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/LEIHO107_2091_2091-0433/17469047?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2f%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3duki1851%26gss%3da ngs-d%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsfn%3dsarah%26 gsfn_x%3dNN%26gsln%3ddickenson%26gsln_x%3dNN%26MSA V%3d1%26gskw%3dnorthamptonshire%26gskw_x%3d1%26cpx t%3d1%26cp%3d11%26catbucket%3drstp%26uidh%3dfpy%26 pcat%3d35%26fh%3d4%26h%3d17469047%26recoff%3d8%2b9 %26ml_rpos%3d5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord
High Street, Melton Mowbray
Edward Dickinson, 37, servant, b Melton Mowbray
Sarah Dickinson, 36, born Roadley
Mary Ann Dickinson, 16, born Melton Mowbray
Sarah Dickinson, 11, born Scaldwell
Susannah Dickinson, 9, born Melton Mowbray
James Dickinson, 6, born Melton Mowbray
Arthur Rob Dickinson, 4, born Melton Mowbray
Thomas Dickinson, 7 months, born Melton Mowbray
Ancestry have transcribed Sarah's place of birth as Caldwell, Norway!
lol! That would be her!
Thank you for the break-through, Terri. Sarah Dickenson on the 1881 census is Sarah's mother. Melton Mowbray is about 16 miles from Grantham, so not too far away.
William Mitchell and Sarah Dickinson's marriage suggests that William was born c1839, so a bit earlier than I first thought.
There is a William Mitchell whose birth was registered in the third quarter of 1839. But can't find a likely suspect in the 1841 or 1851 census, though. His father Christopher is providing equally elusive.
There's a William b 1839 in Canwick, Lincolnshire in 1841. The household looks a bit odd. John aged 20, then Deborah aged 25 and Frances aged 25. Could Christopher have died already?
How about this in 1851:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/LINHO107_2103_2104-0576/9942154?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1851%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_r_db %26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26gsfn%3dfrances%26gsfn_x%3d 1%26gsln%3dcook%26gsln_x%3dNN%26msbpn__ftp%3dCanwi ck%252c%2bLincolnshire%252c%2bEngland%26msbpn%3d85 215%26msbpn_PInfo%3d8-%257c0%257c0%257c3257%257c3251%257c0%257c0%257c0%2 57c5273%257c85215%257c0%257c%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh%3d9 vh&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
A Frances Mitchell married a Christopher Cook in Lincoln RD:
Marriages Sep 1846
Cook Christopher Lincoln 14720
Mitchell Frances Lincoln 14720
Adds to say that if I am right, then William is in service somewhere in 1851:(
Snap, Phoenix!
After you found the 1841 census record, I wondered if William may have been the illegitimate son of Frances Mitchell.
Canwick is south of Lincoln city centre, so he is likely to say he was born in Lincoln.
The family in 1851, in Aubourn in Lincolnshire. There is a Mitchell there, but an Elizabeth and born at 'Union, Lincoln' - possibly the Lincoln Union Workhouse?
Christopher Cook, 34, ag lab, born Haddington
Frances Cook, 35, ag lab's wife, born Glentworth
William Cook, 14, at home, born Auborn
Henry Cook, 7, at home, born Auborn
Elizabeth Mitchell, wife's daughter, at home, 6, born Union, Lincoln
George Cook 3, at home, born Auborn
John Cook, 6 month, born Auborn
I wonder if the enumerator got details mixed up?
For ref - the 1841 census record:
Canwick, Lincoln
John Mitchell, 20, ag lab
Deborah Mitchell, 25
Frances Mitchell, 25
William Mitchell, 2
Mary Mitchell, 10 months
All born in county
kiterunner
02-06-15, 17:45
That couple do have a son William age 10 on the 1851 census but he is down as Cook, and there is an Elizabeth Mitchell age 6, "wife's dau", implying that William Cook is the son of Christopher Cook and a previous wife, don't you think? There is a William Cooke, son of Christopher Cooke, marrying in 1871 age 30 at Navenby, Lincs, not far from Aubourn.
kiterunner
02-06-15, 17:49
Oh, are you thinking there are two Williams in the family, one Cook and one Mitchell?
kiterunner
02-06-15, 17:50
This is John and Deborah in 1851 but no William with them:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/LINHO107_2104_2105-0529/9953818?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1851%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%2 6new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsf n%3ddeb*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dmitch*%26gsln_x%3d1 %26msbpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn__ft p_x%3d1%26msfng_x%3d1%26msfns_x%3d1%26msmng_x%3d1% 26msmns_x%3d1%26msbng0_x%3d1%26mssng0_x%3d1%26mssn s0_x%3d1%26mscng0_x%3d1%26gskw%3dlinc*%26gskw_x%3d 1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
So Mary died after 1871, so any or all of the children might have been hers, rather than Sarah's. Odd that Mary and William seemed to have no living children between marriage in 1861 and 1871.
In 1871, Christopher and Frances have Hannah Mitchell 6 and Harriet 8mo with them.
In 1871, Christopher and Frances have Hannah Mitchell 6 and Harriet 8mo with them.
Here is the info from the census record - the two Mitchell girls are each described as 'wife's grand daughter'.
Christopher Cook, head, 54, ag lab, b Waddington
Frances Cook, 56, wife, ag lab wife, b Glentworth
Martha Cook, dau, 13, helper in the household, b Aubourn
Joseph Cook, grandson, 10, scholar, b Aubourn
Hannah Mitchell, wife's grand daughter, 6, born Aubourn
Harriet Mitchell, wife's grand daughter, 8 months, born Lincoln
Martha Lobsey, mother, wid, 77, former carrier, b Aubourn
The Harriet Mitchell in the 1871 census above was born on 4 August 1870 in Lincoln. Mother is Elizabeth Mitchell. I suspect she is the Elizabeth Mitchell described as 'wife's daughter' in the 1851 census.
I did wonder. And presumably she is dead/in the workhouse/newly married in 1871.
This is John and Deborah in 1851 but no William with them:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/LINHO107_2104_2105-0529/9953818?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1851%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%2 6new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsf n%3ddeb*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dmitch*%26gsln_x%3d1 %26msbpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn__ft p_x%3d1%26msfng_x%3d1%26msfns_x%3d1%26msmng_x%3d1% 26msmns_x%3d1%26msbng0_x%3d1%26mssng0_x%3d1%26mssn s0_x%3d1%26mscng0_x%3d1%26gskw%3dlinc*%26gskw_x%3d 1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
There is a baptism for a William Mitchell on 4 February 1855 in Canwick, Lincolnshire. Parents are John and Deborah Mitchell.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=fs1englandbirthsandchristenings&gss=angs-d&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&gsfn=william&gsfn_x=NN&gsln=mitchell&gsln_x=NN&MSAV=1&msfng=john&msfng_x=1&msmng=deborah&msmng_x=1&cpxt=1&cp=11&catbucket=rstp&uidh=fpy&pcat=34&fh=0&h=68649153&recoff=&ml_rpos=1
*gets v confused*
We don't have William Mitchell's marriage certificate, do we? Witnesses, father's occupation might help.
If we are right, and William is Frances', probably illegitimate, child, then he's hiding in 1851. Whether John and Deborah called a child bp in 1855 would be irrelevant.
If we are wrong, and the William in 1841 was John's son, then he probably died and they had another son called William - and we are back to square one.
For ref - the 1841 census record:
Canwick, Lincoln
John Mitchell, 20, ag lab
Deborah Mitchell, 25
Frances Mitchell, 25
William Mitchell, 2
Mary Mitchell, 10 months
All born in county
The Mary Mitchell above is the daughter of John and Deborah, baptised on 30 August 1840.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=fs1englandbirthsandchristenings&so=2&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&gss=angs-g&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&gsfn=mary&gsfn_x=NN&gsln=mitchell&gsln_x=NN&MSAV=1&msmng=deborah&msmng_x=1&gskw=canwick&gskw_x=1&cpxt=1&cp=11&catbucket=rstp&uidh=fpy
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