Louisa Florence Payton, neice

[Phoenix]

Louisa lived with Mark and Martha Wheeler in London. The 1861 census shows her as aged 20

The 1871 as aged 28:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7619/LNDRG10_669_671-0488/2433652?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1871%26so%3d2%26pcat%3d35% 26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d0%26gss%3dangs-c%26gsfn%3dmark%26gsln%3dwheeler%26uidh%3d9vh&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

1871 has her born Birmingham, niece of the widowed Mark. She is the sole executrix of his will, proved in 1872.

Martha Wheeler was nee Cooper.

Louisa appears to be the daughter of Joseph Payton and Eliza Hillman.

Niece? Great niece? As Mark came from Dudley and Martha from Norfolk, I assume that Louisa is related to him, but how?

[Merry]

She's probably the dau of Joseph Payton and Louisa Wheeler who married in 1835 in St Peter and St Paul Aston. They are together with their dau in 1841 and 1851, but in 1851 the father is listed as James not Joseph. he is a Jeweller both times round.

[Merry]

Louisa Payton senr, nee Wheeler, is 33 in 1851 and b Birmingham.

[Phoenix]

Dur. That makes much more sense. Thank you, Merry!

[Merry]

Do you have siblings for Mark?

[Phoenix]

I'm more interested in his son, also Mark.

This is the text of a newspaper article:

Named in anewspaper notice of 1887 as out of communication with the rest of the family.

John Cooper of Hilgay, Norfolk, farmer, by his will with a codicil thereto, proved in the year 1843, bequeathed the residue of Estate upon trust for the benefit of Mary Ann Ward, recently deceased, for her life, and after her death in equal shares unto, amongst other persons, his nephews and nieces, the sons and daughters of his sisters Elizabeth Bagley, Susannah Benton and Martha Wheeler, and of his brother Thomas Cooper, and to Mary Ann Highes, daughter of his late niece Mary Ann Hughes, deceased.
The undermentioned persons, or their legal representatives if dead, are requested to send their names and addresses, with particulars of their claims and evidence of their identity, to Mr Jn J Nunn, solicitor, Downham mARKET, before the 31st day of December 1887.
Children of Elizabeth Bagley
Susan the wife of Joseph Popple. The said Joseph is supposed to be still alive and living near Peterborough.
James Bagley, who died many years ago and is supposed to be buried near Peterborough
Martha Snasdell (child of Susannah Benton) who is stated to have died at Tilney All Saints, Norfolk
Mark Wheeler, child of Martha Wheeler
Children of Thomas Cooper
Sarah the wife of Joseph Cheshire, who lived near Blackfriars Bridge, London
Thomas Cooper who died in America several years ago
The above mentioned Mary Ann Hughes who afterwards married Edward Lines of Camberwell in the County of Surrey.
JNO J NUNN Solicitor, Downham Market
12th October 1887

Martha died in 1864, her husband in 1872. I would have expected the son to be executor of Mark's will, but it is Louisa who proves it. I do wonder whether Mark junior was even living by 1872.

[Merry]

Well, I haven't taken all that in, but Mark jr was Mark John Wheeler at baptism (1824 St Marylebone) so I expect this is him:


Deaths Mar 1853
Wheeler Mark John W. London 1c 33

[Phoenix]

Which must mean that the Mark junior floating around in the newspapers is another Mark, son of Mark. The draper/grocer family.

A bit sad that the family had lost touch over thirty years ago.