Robert SAMSON

[Shazza34]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as Robert Samson
Date and place of birth 1881 (from marriage certificate)
Names of parents very difficult to read on marriage cert
Date and place of baptism - unknown
Details of each of his or her marriages - 1904 Stirling Scotland to Margaret Anderson BLYTH
Occupation(s) - Chain winder (coal mine)
Military service - unknown
Addresses where they lived - unknown
Date, place and cause of death unknown
Date and place of burial / cremation - unknown
Details of will / administration of their estate - unknown
Memorial inscription - unknown

Sorry but not a lot of info on this one. I do have a copy of his marriage certificate but VERY difficult to read the handwriting !!!

[kiterunner]

Sharon, can you post up the bit of the marriage cert that shows parents' names, please, and we'll have a go at deciphering them?

[Shazza34]

Hope this works !

[Shazza34]

YES !!!!!!
Very difficult handwriting to read !

[kiterunner]

It looks like Crawford Braen (not sure about that!) Widow of Thomas Samson coal miner. Which I think means that Thomas Samson wasn't his father but they don't know who was. But hopefully we can find Robert's birth reg now and it will make things clearer.

[kiterunner]

Okay, the marriage is on FamilySearch, Thomas Samson married Craford Brown 3 Jul 1862, Muirkirk, Ayrshire.

[kiterunner]

Children of Thomas Samson and Cra(w)ford Brown on FamilySearch

(all born Muirkirk, "extracted" entries):
John 14 Feb 1860
Janet 7 Dec 1862
John 5 Dec 1864
Christina 27 Mar 1867
James 8 Feb 1870
Elizabeth 26 Jan 1872
William 9 Jan 1874

There is also a "submitted" entry for a Mary born about 1877 but that may or may not be correct.

So we need to look for Thomas's death in or after 1874 and Robert's birth, oh, and of course we should be able to find the family on the 1881 census now which should show whether Thomas was around then or not.

[kiterunner]

According to ancestry, Crawford was the head of household in 1881 and Mary age 4 was the youngest child, but you would have to look on Scotland's People to see whether Crawford is listed as a widow.

[kiterunner]

There are a few possible Robert Samson births at Muirkirk listed on Scotland's People, for instance 2 between 1881 and 1882. Unfortunately it doesn't let you specify mother's name on the search so you would have to view the results to work out which one is the right entry.

[Shazza34]

OHHHHHHHH !!! Thank you haven't got the time to look at what you've found as supposed to be at work. Will add to my lenthening to do list for this week.
Thank you all

[kiterunner]

And there are 3 Thomas Samson deaths listed on Scotland's People at Muirkirk between 1872 and 1881 - one of those died in 1876 age 36 and I think that's likely to be Crawford's husband because the other two Thomases were under 20. Of course you would need to look at the death cert to check, and at Robert's birth cert, but it looks likely that Thomas wasn't Robert's father in which case it will be difficult to find out who was unless it names him on the birth certificate.

[Shazza34]

Kiterunner
Have found out that Thomas Samson died 14 July 1876 from injuries sustained in roof collaspe at colliery that occured on 22 June 1876.
Have got loads more info.
Will update here next week when I've had time to digest it all.
Thanks again for all your help today !!!