Help reading name on FMP please

[kiterunner]

If you have a sub to FMP, could you please look at the father's (or possibly mother's?) name for Sydrake Jorye baptised 19th Aug 1565 - near the bottom of the page. FMP have transcribed it as Banson but I'm not sure that's right as I can't see any similar s's on the page and I can't find any trace of a Banson Jorye.

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbprs%2fply%2f004634392%2f00015&parentid=gbprs%2fb%2f31477426%2f1&highlights=%22%22

[Phoenix]

I can see why they have done so, but I can't see any similar S either. Trouble is, you need it mid word.

[Phoenix]

I assume the son is actually Cedric?

[Phoenix]

I wonder if it is Baudon? I have a few Baldwins at that time and vicinity.

[kiterunner]

I assume the son is actually Cedric?

Seems so, although he is Shadrach on Boyd's Marriage Index.

[ElizabethHerts]

I agree that it could be Baudon.

[kiterunner]

I wonder if it is Baudon? I have a few Baldwins at that time and vicinity.

Thanks for the suggestion. I can't find any trace of a Baudon or Baldwin Jorye at the moment but will keep looking.

[Phoenix]

Is everything for Devon (let alone what survives) online? My Grace Blackmore clearly springs from wealthy merchant and minor gentry families, but most of them have disappeared without a ripple.

[kiterunner]

Is everything for Devon (let alone what survives) online?

No, but I would expect him to be buried in Plymouth which is on FMP, or London / Westminster as Sidrick got married in Westminster but then returned to Plymouth. I can't find any other children before or after Sidrick, though, so maybe they did move to some other bit of Devon for a while. Or somewhere else!

[kiterunner]

Hmm, there is a Bawden Lorye buried 14 Apr 1604 at Shaugh Prior. It does look more like an L than a J on the image to me, though:
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbprs%2fply%2f004635465%2f00040&parentid=gbprs%2fd%2f33290295%2f1

Oh, and thanks for helping too, Elizabeth.

[Phoenix]

That is just too cruel. It looks like an L to me too.

[kiterunner]

There is a William, son of Baldwine Lawrye, baptised at Shaugh Prior 18 May 1572 so the 1604 burial does seem to be a Lorye rather than a Jorye. :(

[Shona]

Have you seen this?
http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/The_Western_Antiquary_v1_1000544553/57

Halfway down the left-hand column there is a reference to:

...Sydrake Jorge, Sonne of Bandon Jorge...

The page is full of typos and errors, though.

[kiterunner]

Ooh, interesting, thanks, Shona! No, I hadn't seen that. I'll see if I can find a better version.

[kiterunner]

Found how to get to the actual book and it seems they were trying to connect the name "Sydrake" with the family of Sir Francis Drake, but as Phoenix suggested, it seems to be a variant of Cedric.

One other extract from the interesting old register I will give, as the name of Drake is rather curiously brought before us. On "Aug 19, 1565, Sydrake Jorge, Sonne of Bandon Jorge was baptised" into the church of his fathers.

But since they misread Jorye as Jorge, who knows whether "Bandon" is correct.

http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook/The_Western_Antiquary_v1_1000544553#57

[Rick]

I'll add a late vote for Bauden. If you imagine the tail above the second and third letters connects to the fourth and compare it to the d in Reede two lines above it helps. The letters u and n on the page are virtually indistinguishable, with the months of January and June providing examples of them next to each other.

Bauden is an old French family name. Bowden/Bawden is Anglo-Saxon and there is a place called Bowden near Dartmouth

[kiterunner]

Thanks, Rick.

[merleyone]

Post 9 mentions FMP and your expectations that Sidrick may have been buried at Plymouth or Westminster. I am not sure whether or not you are aware of the burial on 26/12/1634 at St Andrew, Plymouth of Sidrake Jorye. I did wonder whether this Sidrake may have been the Sidrake, s. of Robert Jory, baptised there on 5/4/1626 but the burial does not show him as 'son' of anyone, which points more to him being an adult.

There is another baptism on 21/5/1650 at St Andrew, Plymouth of a Sydrach, s. of Richard Jory and the likelihood is that they are all members of the same family. Proving that, however, may be some challenge.

merleyone

[kiterunner]

Thanks, merleyone, but I was talking about Sidrick's father when I said I thought he would have been buried at Plymouth or Westminster / London. I did already have Sidrick's burial. Sorry for confusion.

The 1650 Sydrach is actually the son of "Nichas" i.e. Nicholas - if you look at the rest of the page there are a few Richards and a few Nichas on there and you can see the difference. Nicholas is my ancestor, son of the 1565 Sidrick.

[merleyone]

Sorry about my 1650 bloomer. I should've gone to Specsavers!

merleyone