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Olde Crone
05-02-15, 13:21
I have the stupendously splendid name of

Whit Arthur Caradawg Gradwell

born June 1878 Prestwich 8d 473.

Lancsbmd also describes him thus.

How likely is it, do you think, that his name was really

Whittaker Gradwell, which is what I would like it to be.

OC

Merry
05-02-15, 13:37
Hmmm, not that certain!

At least, not if you were thinking the Whit Arthur should say Whittaker as it's likely this is his brother, and he is properly Arthur:

Births Jun 1877

GRADWELL Arthur Caradawg Prestwich 8d 416

Deaths Sep 1877

GRADWELL Arthur Caradawg 0 Prestwich 8d 260

Merry
05-02-15, 13:39
is it going to cause a problem if he died?


Whit Arthur C Gradwell
b abt 1878 Oct-Nov-Dec 1882 Skipton Yorkshire West Riding

maggie_4_7
05-02-15, 13:41
Mmm

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=F2I_AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA277&lpg=PA277&dq=whit+arthur+caradawg&source=bl&ots=Ts_vrC7s6U&sig=qoiP_6MFFDShiQ8KuyZW-hPxIPc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vH_TVPzeJaWt7AakjoHYAQ&ved=0CC8Q6AEwBg

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qqVxhFxzPFQC&pg=PA90&lpg=PA90&dq=whit+arthur+caradawg&source=bl&ots=F_lAamOzCZ&sig=N03LvwzjHwV4zNzyz3SjyG3EtVE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vH_TVPzeJaWt7AakjoHYAQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwCQ

Olde Crone
05-02-15, 14:05
Ah yes, found the death, so that door is closed anyway.

Thanks Maggie, I am astonished that this family knew anything of Welsh literature etc - mother couldn't spell her OWN first name so it's quite hard to imagine her sitting down with a book of Welsh poems!

I think I got over-excited when I saw the odd name because this is a twiglet branch of a family with such common names (first names AND surnames) and I thought it might lead me along a new research path. Apparently not.

Thankyou anyway.

OC

Olde Crone
05-02-15, 14:10
Interesting to note that on Lancsbmd, his death is registered in Barnoldswick, registers now at Preston. Not sure how that would translate to Skipton, Yorks, according to the GRO.

OC

Merry
05-02-15, 14:18
Interesting to note that on Lancsbmd, his death is registered in Barnoldswick, registers now at Preston. Not sure how that would translate to Skipton, Yorks, according to the GRO.

OC

Skipton seems to have a sub-district called Barnoldswick:

SKIPTON REGISTRATION DISTRICT
•Registration County : Yorkshire West Riding.
•Created : 1.7.1837.
•Abolished : 1.1.1947 (to become part of Staincliffe and Ewecross registration districts).
•Sub-districts : Addingham, Barnoldswick, Gargrave, Grassington, Kettlewell, Kildwick, Skipton.
•GRO volumes : XXIII (1837-51), 9a (1852-1946), 2D (1946).
•Registers currently held at : North Yorkshire.

But that says the registers are held at North Yorkshire reg office rather than Preston.

Merry
05-02-15, 14:23
This must be the family living in Thornton in Craven, Yorks (sub district Barnoldswick Reg District Skipton) in 1881:

Mark Oswald Gradwell 36
Elizabeth Gradwell 40
Margaret Anne Gradwell 15
Tom C. A. C. Gradwell 13
James A. Gradwell 12
Adlaide Gradwell 9
Victor Oswald Gradwell 7
Boadecia Gradwell 5
Caradsing Gradwell 2

JessBow
05-02-15, 16:06
This must be the family living in Thornton in Craven, Yorks (sub district Barnoldswick Reg District Skipton) in 1881:

Mark Oswald Gradwell 36
Elizabeth Gradwell 40
Margaret Anne Gradwell 15
Tom C. A. C. Gradwell 13
James A. Gradwell 12
Adlaide Gradwell 9
Victor Oswald Gradwell 7
Boadecia Gradwell 5
Caradsing Gradwell 2

fancy names if ever I did

Olde Crone
05-02-15, 17:44
Oh blithery heck! They aren't mine! There must be two families (or more).

That's what hopeful guessing does for you. Grrr. I was so desperately trying to get value from a ten quid will which is otherwise useless. ("My sister, Thamar Gradwell")

OC

Olde Crone
05-02-15, 17:50
Ah right. I think.

Barnoldswick was historically in Yorkshire until 1974 but is now administratively in Lancashire. As the registers are now at Preston, then they have been transcribed onto Lancsbmd, even though the events they transcribe took place in Yorkshire, not Lancashire.

OC