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Rick
29-01-15, 19:32
The first image is from a marriage register and I was puzzled by what it says after George Theyer, especially compared to the Widr and Br on the lines immediately above and below.

The second image is the allegation and it has what may be the same abbreviation. I think it says joyner &BC. Does anyone know exactly what it means ? I wondered if B was for bachelor and C was for citizen ?

Phoenix
29-01-15, 20:32
I agree that it is the same abbreviation: there is another abt three pages on in the marriages. What it is, tho'?

I wondered Volunteer, but I'm not sure that that makes sense.

Phoenix
29-01-15, 20:38
You might be a Joiner and Polisher, but that surely isn't a condition at marriage?

Rick
29-01-15, 20:56
Looking at that page in the marriage register you mentioned the curly character I mistook for a C appears after B, Sp and Wid - so it just seems to abbreviating those words.

Rick
29-01-15, 20:58
Et cetera is my guess

kiterunner
29-01-15, 21:55
In the first image, after the name George Theyer it is Wd with the d being a superscript and underlined.

Rick
29-01-15, 22:11
In the first image, after the name George Theyer it is Wd with the d being a superscript and underlined.

That's what I first thought Kate, but I must say I've now changed my mind. The marriage licence says that bride and groom are 21. George was born on 19 Aug 1724 and was apprenticed to his father for 7 years on 23 Aug 1738. One of the conditions of the indenture is that he would not contract matrimony. The marriage licence says he was a bachelor and was issued on the day of the marriage - 27 Aug 1745.

I'd be interested to know what you think it says after Elizabeth Pitts and if the the final character resembles the one you think is a d in Wd. Also in comparison to the marriages of Joseph Wonnicott and William Brawne on image 54 (both bride and groom's abbreviations).

kiterunner
29-01-15, 22:21
After Elizabeth Pitts I would say it is Spr with the r superscript and underlined but not very clear. It looks similar to how they often wrote Esqr after a man's name.

Sorry, I don't know what you mean about image 54 - I was just looking at the clips that you posted up.

Rick
29-01-15, 22:57
After Elizabeth Pitts I would say it is Spr with the r superscript and underlined but not very clear. It looks similar to how they often wrote Esqr after a man's name.

Sorry, I don't know what you mean about image 54 - I was just looking at the clips that you posted up.

Sorry - I'm looking at the Ancestry image Phoenix was talking about. Here's the link.....http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1624/31281_A102322-00053/8109098?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2f%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dLMAearlyparish%26h%3d8109098% 26ti%3d5538%26indiv%3dtry%26gss%3dpt%26ssrc%3dpt_t 58184359_p48032719506_kpidz0q3d48032719506z0q26pgz 0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid&ssrc=pt_t58184359_p48032719506_kpidz0q3d4803271950 6z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid&backlabel=ReturnRecord#?imageId=31281_A102322-00055

What's going through my mind is these look like BTs - all written neatly and in one hand. But there's a difference in how bachelor, spinster and widower are abbreviated - sometimes with a superscript r and sometimes with the curly character - perhaps reflecting how they were written on the original register.

kiterunner
30-01-15, 07:46
Yes, I see what you mean. There are some unusual B's on that page now I can see it in full. So the letter after George Theyer must be one of those too.

Rick
30-01-15, 14:00
Whatever it actually says, I'm happy that it's a contraction of bachelor and I don't need to look for an earlier marriage. Thanks for looking.

524919
31-01-15, 06:29
I wonder if it might be a contraction of 'not of this parish'

Rick
31-01-15, 19:37
I wonder if it might be a contraction of 'not of this parish'

I don't think so. It seems to be used only on certain marriages and replaces the superscript r after B for bachelor, Sp for spinster or Wid for widow/widower. All entries for that marriage are written that way, whereas other marriages will all have a superscript r.